I think we have all learned from this, as Jerry G. pointed out, and we should put this horse to sleep. You are right... people should not lump and label PETA activists, Green peace activists, Sierra Club activists, or any other such group into the term "environmentalists". I teach environmental education so I guess you could call me an environmentalist. I hope Jimmi would not dump me in the desert.. Let's all move on...........
Ginger M. Allen Senior Biological Scientist Florida Master Naturalist Program Coordinator www.MasterNaturalist.org University of Florida/IFAS Southwest Florida Research & Education Center 2686 State Road 29 North Immokalee, FL 34142 FAX 239-658-3469 PH 239-658-3400; SunCom 974-3400 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Skibbe Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D. I was just offended that people were using 'environmentalist' as a slang foul word. These are the only people in the west that are really fighting for our habitat as a full-time job. I'd hate to think where we'd be without them. Sure, TU and other groups do a lot of good work here, but here in MT it's mostly just buying water so it's not used for irrigation. The real enviros protect our forests and spawning tributaries. And I have friends that do it. The Native Forest Network is some of the most tree-hugging people you've ever met, and a lot of them fish, when they're not chained to a tree of course :) I just consider myself a hippie I guess. I don't know how else a trout bum can classify themself. I live in nature many days of the year, and I believe in conserving natural resources. Mostly I think people use much more than they really need. Like when you go to McDonald's you get almost as much trash as food for a small example. So please don't talk about randomly kicking someone's ass(especially mine) for believing times must change for us exist somewhat harmoniously with our planet. I apologize if I was perhaps too harsh earlier, but this is a very heated debate in the country, and I anticipated some major flack for it. Todd >From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D. >Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:48:01 -0500 > >Todd: You are taking Jimi's comments out of context (I think).. he said >we SHOULD take care of the planet... But there are ppl , say from Green >Peace, who will MURDER HUMANS for killing a fish.... Surely you don't >agree with that????? Chuck > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Todd Skibbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D. > > > > Now we're getting religious about this? Screw the environment > > because >God > > will fix it. Sounds like a great answer with no accountability for > > our actions. Pollution is real. Habitat destruction is real. Our >ever-growing > > need to consume is real. Our resources are limited. We need to do > > something. Trout fisherman should know that more than anyone. How sad. > > > > > > >From: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D. > > >Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:15:18 -0600 > > > > > >"environmentalist" are a full 180ยบ out from the norm and worship > > >the creation rather than the "Creator". > > > > > >I forgot to add, "Environmentalist" are the truest form of "Hypocrisy". > > >They > > >demand that the animals and fish have rights and feelings and that >"Man" >is > > >destroying or hurting them. At the same time, they fly on jets > > >across >the > > >country, drive SUV's, work in high rise office buildings using > > >tones of electricity, burn down housing projects and attack > > >licensed hunters and fisherman, all the while using massive amounts > > >of fossil fuels, ( gas, plastics etc.), and claim they are saving the > > >world. > > > > > >My point, gather them all up and put them in the desert with "NOTHING" >and > > >see how long they survive. Personally, I would not even waste the > > >time making an artificial reef out of the whole bunch in shark > > >infested >waters. > > >Jimi > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: > > >6/23/05 > > > > > > > >
