Don: Thanks.. I do have one, but since I don't know if we are allowed to post pics here I'll send ya a pic of a fly with the type feather I have a question about off group, Thanks, Chuck
----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Denier and Biot > Chuck, I checked my sent box and the message I sent to you about biots was > still in it. > > "Chuck, > Although the term 'biot' in not originally correct, in flytying it has been > adopted to mean the tough, leading-edge barbs from the flight feathers of > goose, duck, turkeys, and other large, legal flighted birds. Most common > are goose biots. These are tough and durable, and change shape(contour) and > length continually down the length of the feather. There are many uses such > as antennae, legs, tails, and wrapped abdomens, based on the bird, the > shape, and the length. These barbs have no velcro effect (like the barbs on > the back sides of the wings) but are stacked one on top of the other and > laid down flat. They stay in place because of stiffness and there is a > slight concaveness down the length, lessening towards the tip. The lead > edge flight feather (#1) has the best and toughest barbs, for obvious > reasons. Then they reduce in quality (as biots) as you move back through > the flight feathers. > There are no two identical feathers on wild birds, just two mirror image > matches from left to right. Size, shape, color, configuration- all change > constantly down the length of the bird and out on to the wings. Every > section of every feather has qualities that make it suitable for specific > flies. > If you have more specific questions on feathers, just ask." > DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chuck Alexander > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:32 AM > Subject: [VFB] Denier and Biot > > > Folks: I know somebody talked about biot the other day, but I can't remember > exactly, Isn't it a long feather that has had the feathers cut off the short > side??? or the quill has been split down the middle???.. Also, I keep seeing > 70 denier 140 denier thread. Is "denier" just the different thicknesses?? > The books I checked out at the library leave a lot to be desired, and the > bigger library I'm gonna join was closed for the 4th, so I couldn't go > there, ... Geez, there is a lot of "terminology" or Fly Tiers "lingo" to > learn huh??? LOL.. I LOVE it though...Just that, as I look through sites > like linesend.com and others that little "starter kit" I'm getting with that > starter tying kit from cabelas ain't gonna be much in the bigger scheme of > things.. Strter kits for ANY hobby or craft never are huh???? Also, didn't > somebody mention lines end having grab bags that would be a lot cheaper on > me than, say the $90 Whiting Hackles from Cabelas and others and trying to > scrape that up???? I'm talking to ALL my friends who raise chickens, quail, > turkeys, peacocks, Llamas, etc to send me some hair, feather et c.. BTW, I > got that Llama .. She said it was "corse Llama" but it is a bunch of > "dubbing (Fleece) with a few mixedcorse black hairs mixedin.. it that the > normal way it comes??? She also raises Sheep, and is gonna sendme some wool, > and I'm goin back over and give my daughter's goat another"trim" It's hot > don't ya know, so the goat loves it I'm sure LOLOL...Thanks in > advance,Didn't mean to write ya'll a BOOK LOL... Chuck >
