I'll have to  "study" On this email a while LOL... I think I understand it,
but I'll give it a try and then see if I am following the directions right,
or not.... I'll let ya know..... I guess it is like all things worth doing,
takes practice, practice, practice, and have to do things in certain "steps"
to get it right.....Building a chair is not "hard", per say, just have steps
that you MUST follow in order (and PRACTICE) for it to be right,
right????.... Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] hooks


> Not quite, The wing tips are tied in by the stems with the tips out over
> the hook eye. Length is about 1 1/4 times the length of the shank. These
> are not cut to shape unless you might be using a wing cutter. I normally
> tie in the tail first. it would be the shank length. Make smooth wraps
> over the tail material to the thorax area or hook eye. It can be done
> either way. You should have a thread base where you are going to tie in
> the wings. I don't want to complicate things but I now tie in the hackle
> and leave it out of the way, then I tie in the wings as above. The
> stripped stem ends are tied in facing the tail. Make smooth wraps over
> the stem ends back up to where the wings will be upright at the thorax,
> Lift the wings and form a thread dam in front of the wings to make them
> stand up. Divide them with X or Figure 8 wraps to spread them apart.
> Post the wings as I mentioned in the last message. Now bring the thread
> back to the tail, tie in body material, bring the thread back up to the
> thorax just behind the wings. Wrap the body and the rib if used and tie
> off behind the wings. The hackle is already tied in so bring the thread
> up to the eye, wrap a couple of turns of hackle behind the wings,
> several in front of the wing and tie off. Having the hackle tied in like
> it was, makes for a nice clean tie off at the hook eye. No tie in hackle
> bump  Now about the hackle. I have mentioned this several times in the
> past so it might be old to some on the list. Find the SWEET part of the
> hackle before tying it in. Take the hackle by the tip and butt end of
> the stem. Form an upside down "U" and work the stem around the bend of
> the "U". You will see where the "U" becomes a lot narrower. It will
> almost "jump" at that point. Only use the hackle from that narrow point
> to the tip. The rest is trash. A lot of new tyers will try to use the
> whole hackle and end discarding the best part near the tip.
> There are still other ways, it is how I do it.
> This is more that you asked for, I hope it will help you tie a better
> dry fly.
> Tony
>
> Chuck Alexander wrote:
>
> >Tony, I see, so you are leaving the quill portion intact???? and sewing
in
> >the matching pair of "wings"????? Then, do you just trim the wings to
size
> >and/or shape??? Thanks, Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Chuck,
> >>The wings are not Biots, on the original they were Fan Wings made from
> >>small breast feathers. Now a days most use synthetic materials like Poly
> >>Yarn or Antron. The wings can also be made from tips of neck hackles.
> >>Tie them in with the tips out beyond the eye of the hook. Then lift the
> >>tips and build a dam of thread in front of the tie in point. This will
> >>keep the wings upright, separate the feather tips ,left and right and
> >>post the base of each feather. By posting that means wrapping thread
> >>around the base of each feather to keep them separated. Do this before
> >>dubbing or wrapping the body. There is a lot more that can be done, that
> >>is just the basic part of it.
> >>Tony
> >>
> >>Chuck Alexander wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>

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