Paul: I'll try that.. I think my main problem is space.. All my life (till
now) I have fished (traditional fishing) with #8 hooks and larger.. NOW,
tying in #12 and smaller.. Just have to get my big ol fingers to cooperate
LOL..I seem to  get all the way to the eye hook and have no room to tie off
properly.. DVD I have says to always leave an eyehook's length, to do your
tie off, and I just have to remember to leave myself a little tie off room I
guess...too Thanks again, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction


> Another technique that I picked up from Hans W is to tie in the hackle on
> top of the hook, dull side up, pointing forward over the eye. The most
> forward thread wrap is where you want the hackle to stop behind the eye.
Tie
> the fly but finish with the thread at the point where the rearmost hackle
> turn will be. Wind the hackle rearward to the thread. Now work the thread
> forward through the hackle, simultaneously tying it down and
strengthening.
> Now at the front you have a clean area to finish a small head, no stray
> barbs at all.
> cheers,
> Paul
>
> Paul Marriner
> Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA &
OWC.
> Author of Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose & Use
> Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal,
> Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction
>
>
> > Here is a trick I use to keep the hackles out of the way. Wrap the
> > hackle to where you will be tying off. Just before the last wrap, strip
> > off the barbs and finish with a bare stem wrap. Another trick it to
> > slide the thread as you finish wrap on the top of the hook eye and under
> > the hook eye as you wrap. This will have the tread push any stray barbs
> > back away from the hook eye.
> > Tony
> >
> > Chuck wrote:
> >
> > >Tony: Thanks..I didn't think about my tie off  LOL...I willprobablyjust
> keepdoing it the way I do
> > >cause The thingthat is giving me problems is with the bigolhackles it
was
> easy to pullthem backout
> > >of the way todo my whipfinish... Anyway,Hope this email is the right
font
> etc,cause I'mat my daughters cause
> > >my neighbor was puttin in new fieldlines to his septic tank cut a main
> phone line trunk, and cut phone service to the whole neighborhood,and it
may
> be a day or two before it is fixed,so Ya'll will get a little rest from my
> LOUD mouth LOL,No applause LOL, Chuck
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Aug 3, 2005 3:44 PM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction
> > >
> > >Chuck,
> > > Do what works for you. I wrap clockwise because I tie off that way
too.
> > >I find if I wrap counter clockwise and tie off clockwise the thread
> > >pulls the material the opposite way loosening it at the tie in point.
> > >Tony
> > >
> > >Chuck Alexander wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Folks: I finally got me some small hackle, and am having trouble with
> > >>it a little... My question is this..I tie right handed,and  Say, on a
> > >>woolly bugger, I would wrap the thread clockwise as the hook eye
> > >>points towards me in the vise.. Then, I WAS wrapping chenille and
> > >>hackle in that SAME direction.. But all night it wanted to come
> > >>unraveled.. So, I wound the thread clockwise, and then the chenille
> > >>and hackle counterclockwise, so, that when I went to tie it off, the
> > >>thread would cross over the hackle and/or chenille and seem to hold
> > >>better.. Is there anything Wrong with doing it this way???? My DVD's
> > >>and Books show them all doing it the same way I was doing it, in the
> > >>same clockwise direction.. Or is this one of those "Whatever works for
> > >>you is the right way"???? Thanks in advance, Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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