Thanks Glenn, I forgot some of those pointers since we always seem to hit only low clear water when steelie fishing these past years and one hour of tying sucker spawn will last a long time anyway.

The one thing I'll differ with you on is the thread I was taught to use by an old buddy of George Harvey, who will never admit this, said fire orange thread was the only color and I belive him after failing with other colors.  To a lesser degree I found size 14-16 "standard" wet fly hooks to be my best producers.

Now I'm not admitting to have ever having fished this but I'll come out if you can tell me what goes into the PA "fly" called "The Bug".  You might have to conceed this one to the kid from Hanover this round if you don't!   VBG!


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From: "Glenn Overton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [VFB] Joyce ,Sucker Spawn
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:21:38 -0600

Sucker Spawn is and old central Pennsylvania fly I know that goes back to more then fifty years and it really works.
The one I tie are unweighted so they dangle under the water as the naturals eggs , I put some split shot about a foot above the egg fly. I use a medium yellow color yarn and some that is a very light yellow with a light orange tint.So when you get a female fish full of eggs I usually can squeeze a few out to get color samples ,O.K it looks funny to see someone taking eggs and natural flies in a jar to fine a yarn to match .Well that what we are all about ,isn't it . Now is you don't have any fresh fish eggs ,when a chicken eats some grass the yoke is a little darker.A chicken yoke can be a good match. To test any yarn for color in the store ,when know one looking ,stick the loose end in our mouth and wet it ,then you may have to go to the front of the store and use sun light to vision the real color.by using natural light. I been doing this for years.
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Hook: size 10--12 hook
Thread:      yellow
Yarn ,  color of natural fish eggs or a chicken egg yoke.
 
Cover hook with thread ,enough so when wet the thread doesn't darken.
 Tie the tip of the yarn above the point of the hook. When you loop the yarn
on the top sides I twist the yarn to put a curl in the yarn to form a small egg
and place the second one on the other side of the shank ,next to the first.
Here goes, Two little eggs in the back ,two larger ones in the middle
and two little eggs in front.Remember they are tied on the top half of the hook.
 
Glenn Overton
 
 
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF flies...Gary's Steelies

KIndly let me know more about the variations of sucker spawn and what yarns you use to tie it. Joyce



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