G'Gary...
Pickin on ya a bit thar son. Responses below. Lots a snippage.
From: "Garry V. Wiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Erie...Rant on fisheries
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:36:20 -0500
D.Murf,
Indeed they don't fish barbless down that parts and I doubt the 'boaters have right-of-way' would apply in a bunch of their minds either. Walnut Access is for the old and lazy, imo. Park and it takes longer to get 'dressed' for the creek than it does to get there. If you fish the wall, then that might be different, it takes even less time, but you have to get out the long reach net. I'm not sure many that fish down there practice any C&R at all.
I don't fish below the first bridge period. I usually don't fish below Manchester either. On Walnut, thing start to spread out once you round the bend at the chutes. Then again, once you get above the falls there, there isn't much in the way of fish until you get to the tubes at Rt. 5. After that, things really get spread out and you can go for a ways with out seeing another angler. I actually wonder how far upstream someone has caught a steelhead on either Walnut or Elk. I've talked to a guide that lives in Greensburg that has caught them above McKeen (where the fish have supposedly reached already) at 79 and on Walnut, he's mentioned Mill Creek Mall.Murf- Suggest you get the Google Earth freebie download and check out the landscape. Couldn't tell you how far up I've fished as we are known to travel 20 miles upstream and everywhere in between. My C&R is always in place except evry so often I take one home to smoke.
I know alot of 'local' fisherman have complained on the fisherie website about the crowding. I can solve that -- stop stocking the fish. Pennsylvania Steelhead is a stocked fishery. Stop putting fingerlings/smolts in the streams and in 2-3 years, steelhead will be down to almost zero. THEN we'll find out how much natural reproduction is going on. I LOVE seeing the crowds. Crowds mean they are buying licenses, spending money in PA and supporting the program.
Murf- Has to be stocked with steelies or there'd be very few. I HATE CROWDS, but am more concerned with those who pollute and have no manners. Crappin in folk's back yards, trash, noise at all hours behind your house sorts.
And this is only one place in PA that I'm aware of it happening. I'm glad people want to come here and visit.
Murf- But the buggers never go home! ;-) I'm a PA native living in MD where the few streams may be crowded but the writers have rarely made it a destination so it's not as bad. Fishing here is for the locals who know the few hot spots left. Only Angus Phillips who write for the Washington Post screws that up. I make sure to turn him on to any water I don't intend to fish for 3-4 years as a deterent.
Well, Mr. Murf, I doubt I've addressed your rant much, especially on the other waters but PA front, but that's probably better for those wiser and better educated than I. I'm not sure which day's are yours on Elk and Walnut this year, but I'll be up there Monday and most likely start my morning parking at Walnut access and who knows from there. If you or another lister is around, give me a call on my cell - 724-216-3196.
Murf- Just practicing my Dave Lewis imitation and not sure when I'll be up but hope my guides don't ice up too much. (Murf)
Have a good day!
-->Garry
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