Rich,

Was good to see you at the show too.  The last show I think was FFF
Livingston a few years ago.  Always seem to have a conflict of scheduling
between that FFF show and Loreto.  Loreto wins.

I keep short pieces of lead-core trolling line cut into 4' and 6'
double-looped 'leaders' just in case of 'emergencies', for when I don't have
my spare spool.  Put these on the end of the fly line before the leader and
it sinks everything to the bottom, floating line and all.  It's harder to
distinguish subtile takes with the extra weight, but at least I can get down
to where the fish are and catch a few.  With streamers the take is usually
so hard that the extra weight may even help set the hook.  Of course,
casting has to be adjusted for the additional weight, or you can get a giant
nymph stuck in the back of your head.  LOL

DonO


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] BRAIDED LOOP LEADER CONNECTORS


> Hi Don!
>
> It's great to be here and see so many familiar faces.  I had a great time
> (as always) at Somerset and it was a real treat to see you there!
>
> I am actually thinking of trying a light weight level line (like running
> line) on a separate spool for nymphing ala the original Joe Humphreys
setup
> and similar to that which has now been adopted by some US FF team members.
> If I do, I'll also be able to use a specific "nymphing leader."
>
> *figures that by applying all available technology he MIGHT become an
> average nympher. ;-)
>
> Thanks for the howdy,
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of DonO
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 11:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [VFB] BRAIDED LOOP LEADER CONNECTORS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Richard Ross
> Hi all.  I signed on a couple of days ago and I'm officially un-lurking wi
th
> this disjointed little post. :-)
>
>  Henk, do you mean Sepp's loops?  My only concern with some loops is the
> smooth transference of energy.   I still usually whip a small loop.  If I
> could cast better, I'd use nail knots.  ;-)
>  Richard
>
>
>
> Hey Richard,
> Was good to see you again in NJ.  Did you have a good time?
>
> I use the braided loops with the shrink-tube on my 8wt and smaller
outfits.
> Then I use a looped braided leader, shortened, then two diameters of
tippet
> tied with blood-knots.  To swap to nymphing (in deeper than 3' of water),
I
> have a spare spool loaded with sink-tip, a sinking braided leader and a
> short tippet of heavy flourocarbon.
>
> On the heavy stuff, especialy saltwater, I make my own loops and
whip-finish
> them, and seal the knot in virgin liquid vinyl.  The liquid vinyl stays
> pliable and goes through the guides easily.  I also apply vinyl to the
> backing to flyline knot (stripped line w/nail-knot) so that it runs
through
> the guides more easily, especially on the 12 and 14wts.  There is so much
> pressure being exerted with a big fish and that knot can run the guides a
> dozen or more times while fighting it.  The same goes for the
line-to-leader
> knot when trying to land a big fish.  It needs to go through the guides
> without hanging up in the least.
>
> DonO
>
>
>
>
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