OK. Better be quick than sorry. I see now that a thing I wrote can be
misunderstood and not in a good way:

"It's not a fast tie. If a swap is about putting in effort, then this is a
true swap fly. It's time taking and a lot of material is gone to waste."

>From one point of view, this maybe sounded like my fly was anything special
just because I spent so much time with it... and seeming like I meant the
other flies aren't "true swap flies", because the other participants didn't
put in as much time as I did. This was NOT what I meant. It wasn't referring
to any other flies in this swap, or any other swaps either for that matter.
It was just refering to my own obsession (taking it TOO seriously).

I apologize in advance to everyone who might have taken this the wrong way.
I didn't mean anything with it.

/Nick




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Thx Rene.

If you want one really fast and aren't that fuzzy with the details, I guess
a guy like you can get one tied in 4.5-5 hours. Ok, it might have been to
push it... but I'm still honest when I say: It's not a fast tie. If a swap
is about putting in effort, then this is a true swap fly. It's time taking
and a lot of material is gone to waste. What is used for the case is the
stiffest part of the herls, max 1.5 cm's from the feather stem... further
out than that is no good. Too soft and too much barbules. Those 1.5 cm
sections are cut in half so you get a bunch of stiff 0.7-0.8 mm herl pieces
with a minimum of barbules. These are put in a dubbing loop one-by-one using
tweezers, perpendicular to the thread and about 0.5-1 mm's from eachother.
After preparing a 2.5 cm length the loop is twisted and the "turkey
chenille" is wrapped and packed. Then the loop is untwisted and you just
continue with new herls. (This is for the tyer's own sake. Slightest tap on
the thread when putting the herls in the loop and everything will fall out.
It's better to be sad about 2.5 cm's lost than EMOTIONALLY DESTROYED about 4
cm's lost.)

Well, to the question... "How long does it take?": I guess the ones I did
for the swap took 1.5-2.5 hours each. The factor making the huge time
differences wasn't the actual 'tying' of the fly. It's mainly the
preparation of the turkey loop BETWEEN the wrapping. A little bit out of
focus and it will take longer.

I have a prepared Word document with a Jester-like 3-chapter story behind
the fly. I'm sending it to Don now and he can distribute it to the
participants.

/Nick




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Hi'all

I've got some great looking flies from the swap. Thanks a lot to all, 
great ideas. For me, the winner is Nick's caddis. Nick, how long does it 
take to tie one of them.

If made a little website, I hope I mixed nothing up. For some of the 
flies I have instructions and recipe. I'll add this later to the side. 
For some of the participants, I have not their location (Country, state) 
I would like to add it.

Here is the URL:
http://rzillmann.tripod.com/swap38/swap38.htm

If you don't like popup ads, try this mirror:
http://www.rzillmann.homepage.t-online.de/swap38/swap38.htm

Have fun
Rene
IOFF, VFB, Germany








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