I have a definite preference for up-eyed hooks, particularly in the small
sizes but the choices and availability are poor. The reason that I like
up-eyed hooks is so that the gape (gap) is not compromised by the down eye.
One of the hooks that I like to use is the Kamasan B440 which is 1X short
and TUE.

Neville 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Glenn Overton
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Diptera ,tying ideas & using a hook with a bigger gap..

Just use tying thread on those small flies and for yellow  bodies and other 
that change into another color just use a strip white hackle quill and dye 
it with a water proof marker before applying to the hook....Sometimes the 
hook color comes through a very thin dub body   A dyed strip peacock eye 
quill.is interesting also..By using the same size hackle, tail and  body 
size try using  a down eye ,#1510 Daiichi. or down eye Mustard ,5x short in 
#16 for # 20 to #22 flies and sometimes for # 24's  and # 18 for the smaller

ones. Again it depends on the size of hackle and body size etc you apply to 
the hook . They been doing this for midge flies in England for over seventy 
five years , I have an old Hardy catalog that shows this.,and Bill Tobin of 
Cortland been using # 16  ,5x shorts since the !930's.,called Tobin's Little

People ...I found that in catch and release waters where there are very 
selective that I had to use a regular size hook only  10 % of the time. and 
instead of missing so many fish ,once they take and roll to take a fly using

these hooks ,just tighten the line and they just hook themselves......Glenn 
Overton


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neville Gosling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Diptera


> You don't need seal's fur per se - it does say or substitute.
> Most black dubbing should be ok. Seal's fur is a bit spikey.
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>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver, Canada
>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Diptera
>
> I have everything to tie these but the seals fur. Anything I could sub for
> that??? Thanks, Chuck
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