Group, I too would like to respond to this thread.
I have come & gone a couple of times. I do not find this list inviting: it has gone the way of others. Not good or bad just an observation--sorry if you are offended. I know other tyers who have made the same decision. It seems that the general thought is one of perspective--how it affects you personally. Well, I wish we could all get beyond that but we cannot. We are just people in a confused world and cannot seem to get past the idea that ALL emails are directed at YOU. If ya don't like it: just hit the "delete" tab. I had a good friend who was kicked off the list by Byard because of his comments toward another member--I guess Byard was right (he owns the list). However, this individual was a respected individual in his circle. He was a retired veteran that saw service near & far for over 25 years. It seemed a bit obsured to dump him from the list because he had a disagreement with a "valued" member (please forgive me as all are valued members). Here again, it is perspective. The VALUED stayed and he was ejected--what a loss, as this guy was a world travler who has fished in many areas that most of us only dream about. We all could have learned from him. Believe me when I tell you that this individual does not need any support from us in any way. He has interests internationally and his time is limited. He HAS attended the Sowbug Roundup and liked the event (thank you Tony). Personally, the list doesn't do much for me. But I do have several friends that I keep in contact with and if were not for this list I would never have gotten to know them (thank you guys & gals for that). Just seems to me like too many chiefs. Sorry group but it has come time to get on with what the list was about; fly tying & fly fishing---leave the personal stuff at the keyboard. Just my 2 cents-sorry if any are affronted. tidbit --- Anthony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope this will not offend anyone especially the > friends I have made on this list. I have thought > several times of unsubscribing but I was afraid of > loosing contact with most of you. I have personally > met a good number of you people and have not found > any > that I disliked.There are some more of you I want to > meet in person.If it were not for this list, we > would > not have some of the best flytyers at the Sowbug > Roundup Show. Yes, we are a family and I feel I am > part of it. Maybe it is just me getting to be an old > toot over the years but at times I just get bored > with > the list and wish we could go back to the old days. > We have lost a good number of regulars, not sure > what > the reason is,I think we have become a bit stale. > I will stay with the list as long as it is around, I > still need to keep in touch with you all. > Tony > > --- Michael Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Byard, et. al, > > > > I will lightly weigh in on this. I migrated to > this > > list 4 or 5 years back > > (has it been longer?) from another list for the > very > > reason that Byard > > mentioned that we are doing here. I knew Byard > from > > there. We were in a > > couple of swaps and I still have one that he did > > where we drew our favorite > > fly and tying method. I think Sue was the > > swapmistress. I came to the list > > to be educated and meet new friends. That has > > happened. I think that > > sometimes we get a little too silly here but > having > > said that I like that we > > are friendly and seem to care about each other. I > > get lots of help from the > > list so I would hate to see it go away. I would > > just suggest a little less > > banter and more real education. I did think > Chuck's > > question would lead to > > some interesting discussion of tyers and their > art. > > It still could. I will > > try and help in this area with my comments for as > I > > said, I think the people > > on this list are a wonderful cross section from > > around the world. Ian > > helped me so much when I was headed to New > Zealand. > > Too bad he could not > > meet me there to teach me to land the big ones I > was > > fortunate to hook. > > Let's do what it takes to make this list the best. > > > > Mike > > > > > > On 9/27/06, Chuck Alexander > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I apologize for any of My off topic comments.. > > I'll stay fishing/tying > > > related, Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to be quite proud of this VFB mail > list. > > What happened? > > > > > > > > Today a post was made...a good post... it > > attempted solicitation of > > > > comments and thoughts that actually pertained > to > > fly tying. I > > > was really > > > > looking forward to the discussion. Thanks Paul > M > > for a most lucid > > > > reply... sadly, yours was the only one. All > > other replies turned a > > > viable > > > > topic into a "good-ole-boy" diatribe...a much > > too frequent occurrence > > > of > > > > late. > > > > > > > > At the top of this note you will find a > request > > for unsubscribing > > > > instructions. I don't blame him. If this > wasn't > > my list, I'd be gone. I > > > > see two to three new subscribers daily... and > > the same number of folks > > > > bailing by unsubscribing daily. Why... because > > the group has become > > > very > > > > closed and familial. Yes, over the years we've > > all come to know each > > > > other but for this list to continue we must > > strive to accept new > > > members. > > > > > > > > I don't currently have the time or energy to > be > > the tyrant landlord of > > > > the list. If someone would like to step up to > > the position please raise > > > > your hand. > > > > > > > > As the list currently stands, I can't envision > a > > need for it > > > to continue > > > > in it's present form. So what do we do? > > Suggestions? > > > > > > > > I'll start... > > > > > > > > Biggie... refocus on fly tying/fishing. > > > > > > > > ...you guys continue the discussion... > > > > > > > > ...byard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > George C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Always do right; this will gratify some people and astonish the rest." Mark Twain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
