I want to see that Davy shad, Charlie. By the way, are
you going to be heading over to Mountain Home next
weekend? The bunch of us are staying out towards Bull
Shoals and I am probably doing more fishing than
conclaving this year. There will be BBQ on Saturday.

--- Charlie Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When I first arrived on scene here, I thought it was
> a little clickish at 
> first but after about a half day and a couple
> sessions in the chat room I 
> felt right at home. It may seem a little clickish to
> some but, I think when 
> one brings his cards and his/her discussion to the
> table the clickish part 
> goes right away. On a brighter note..... I have been
> fishing some local 
> ponds for bass with the Davy Wotton Shad and man has
> it produced for me. I 
> was fishing Sunday afternoon and found some bass
> schooling up against a pond 
> dam. First cast with the Wotton Shad on the 6 weight
> and WHAM... caught my 
> biggest bass to date on a fly rod. Right at the 7 lb
> mark. I ended up 
> hooking and losing 3 more of that caliber but to no
> avail could not get them 
> to bank. The only reason I got the first one in is
> because it hit the shad 
> fly right by the bank and I was able to keep him out
> of the lilly pads. Bass 
> are schooling here in ARkansas prior to this cool
> snap. Going to hit the 
> Little Red on Sunday will post report Monday at
> work.
> 
> CRB
> 
> 
> >From: Jeff Frye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: [VFB] VFB clickish?
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:27:39 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >With all due respect to all involved, I found the
> the
> >youmg Barnett boy to be a self promoting poseuar.
> He
> >called himself a professional tyer at age 15 and
> when
> >I hosted an emerger swap, he entered a fly that was
> a
> >size 6 5x long shank hook wrapped with nothing but
> >peacock herl. He was a rich kid living a fantasy
> with
> >us at that time. I'm sure he has gine on to better
> >things, but he was mostly full of crap. As a test
> of
> >his knowledge, I offered up a supply of imported
> >jurango fur for him to tie with. Very exotic and
> >highly prized, smuggled in by a buddy of mine that
> >travels abroad for his job. Instantly, he could not
> >live with the albino jurango nor the rare black
> >jurango. He says, that is so hard to get, I can't
> >believe you have a source. That was the poker tell.
> As
> >you know, there is no jurango. The beasts go by the
> >names of Boomer and Chipper and had a recent
> grooming.
> >I'm a fella that has to call bullcrap when he has
> to.
> >Kid is not going to learn to shoot straight if
> people
> >feed his BS. I'm not sure he ever knew the
> difference.
> >But I wouldn't know as he is a professional fly
> tyer.
> >
> >
> >--- Neville Gosling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Don O
> > >
> > > I beg to differ. I recall a situation last
> winter,
> > > when a young VFB member
> > > Joshua Barnett who had a signature that included
> > > Editor, The Modern Angler
> > > Tier and the Back Porch Fly Company who made a
> > > comment or seemingly (to me)
> > > harmless remark and none other than our late
> friend
> > > Murph jumped all over
> > > him. I and several other VFB members e-mailed
> Murph
> > > off list with words to
> > > the effect that his comments were not in the
> spirit
> > > of VFB and out of place.
> > > To give him credit, Murph apologized publicly
> via
> > > VFB to Joshua but by that
> > > time Joshua was already gone - never to return.
> Now,
> > > I respected Murph and
> > > tied a fly in his honor when he passed away. The
> > > point is we all make
> > > mistakes. This is just one example.
> > >
> > > With regard to your questions, I don't think
> that
> > > there is a conclusive
> > > answer to any of them. Many times, different fly
> > > tiers in different
> > > countries come up with the same or very similar
> > > discoveries and techniques.
> > > Some make claims that they have innovated,
> invented
> > > or discovered the
> > > technique and some don't.
> > >
> > > Neville (Nev) Gosling
> > > Greater Vancouver, BC
> > > Canada
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of DonO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:24 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB clickish?
> > >
> > > I've been on this list for a very long time, and
> I
> > > can't remember once when
> > > a newbie to the list popped on and INTRODUCED
> > > HIMSELF/HERSELF to the list
> > > and the list as a whole did not welcome him/her
> > > wholeheartedly.  I've even
> > > seen listers try to talk an 'unsubscribe me' out
> of
> > > unsubscribing.  I've
> > > seen Deb and Nick and Chuck and Jimi on and on
> be
> > > welcomed so well that they
> > > became 'one of the family' almost instantly. 
> And
> > > I've seen them progress so
> > > fast it's scary.  Most of the time a post comes
> up
> > > that says 'unsubscribe
> > > me', with a name I'd never seen before.  I'd
> > > challenge anyone to get a
> > > friend to sign up, who would INTRODUCE HIMSELF
> and
> > > his/her interest in
> > > tying, fishing, or whatnot, who would not be
> > > overwhelmingly welcomed by the
> > > 'GOB' listers that post regularly.  I don't see
> a
> > > click here, just some who
> > > regularly post and reply.
> > >
> > > I can't keep track of who has unsubscribed, as
> some
> > > lurk for a time.  I do
> > > know that the 'healthy' discussions we used to
> have
> > > were joined in by a lot
> > > of people whom we hadn't heard from in a while =
> > > lurkers.
> > >
> > > I've already made my feelings known in the past
> > > about givers and takers.
> > > Nothing has changed.  THe VFB is great when a
> lot of
> > > listers are 'givers'.
> > > Quit giving, and the list goes dead, like it was
> > > when the 'GOB diatribes'
> > > started.  If ya git bored, start a thread or a
> swap.
> > >  Start a materials
> > > swap.  Find some neat materials and give it away
> to
> > > other listers.  There's
> > > lots of ways to make the vfb pleasant.  Study up
> an
> > > a new topic and share
> > > the information.  Post fishing reports- I love
> the
> > > photos part.  Search the
> > > web and post neat url's. Staying on topic is
> easy if
> > > topics are generated.
> > > I loved the fish-cam series.
> > >
> > > I stayed out of the "who's the best' discussion
> for
> > > personal reasons-
> > > competitions are NOT my thing.
> > >
> > > I would much rather a thread named "Notable
> > > Contributions to Tying".  Many
> > > times the credit for techniques goes
> unrecognized or
> > > given erroneously to
> 
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