Looks like you have it WHIPPED
Tony

--- Chuck Alexander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tony: Thanks... BTW I HAVE let my fingernail grow
> LOL..Anyway, yeah, you are 
> right.. When I first tied the Chili Pepper (or any
> flies for that matter) I 
> thought , that, on the tie off thread that "more was
> better".. Not true, but 
> learning something a wrong way is harder to UNlearn
> that to learn it 
> correctly the first time.. I should have looked at
> the videos I have more I 
> guess..But, at least on the chili pepper , as it
> turned out, the way I tie 
> it, it has a much bigger orange neck than a normal
> pepper, and it has caught 
> me a ton of bluegills, so, I just kept tying it that
> way..I tied some 
> Saturday , for my wife and I to use yesterday, and
> used a half hitch before 
> tying the wrap, and used glue between those two
> steps and they seemed to be 
> alot tighter. None of them unraveled after catching
> several fish anyway.. 
> Thank for the tips, Chuck
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anthony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question
> 
> 
> > In tying off behind a bead the thread will not
> slide
> > all the way down if too much material is in the
> way.
> > On the Chili Pepper there is a definite Fire
> Orange
> > collar behind the bead. Normally on Bugger type
> flies,
> > the tie off thread is hidden behind the bead.
> Building
> > up that collar so it shows means a lot more wraps
> are
> > made than is normally used to tie off. There lies
> part
> > of the problem. Too many wraps or too much bulk.
> Now
> > you tried it on a bare hook and had no problems.
> What
> > does this tell you. When I tie the Peppers, I
> don't
> > bulk up the chenille  up against the bead, I just
> get
> > it close enough to tie it off. Then bring up the
> > hackle and tie it off in front of the chenille.
> This
> > keeps a lot of bulk from behind the bead. When
> > building up the thread collar, I make a few wraps
> > pulling tight on each wrap, half hitch then while
> > pulling on the thread use my fingernail to push
> the
> > wraps down and repeat the above till I have the
> collar
> > I want. It is all automatic to me as I have been
> doing
> > it this way for a long time. George Vincent's way
> > using glue is also a good idea. I have to tie a
> dozen
> > donation Peppers this afternoon, I am going to try
> > using glue on the thread as he suggested.
> > You might have a bit of a problem doing this,
> seems I
> > remember a post where you said you bite off your
> > fingernails to the quick.
> > LOL
> > Tony
> >
> 
> 


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