Rene: I found that to be true also, just a little bit of vinegar will work.. I think it is because vinegar is a solvent, and it helps to better dissolve the dye, and a little bit will do the job, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Zillmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] dying feather


Dave,

I use as less water as possible, so that it desolves the dye and covers my feathers. I don't care so much on the vinegar. My wife has an 20% diluted somewhere arround, I usually add 1 to 2 tablespoons to it.

What I do is to check the success of the dye process, I check from time to time the color of the materials, and when I'm satisfied, I stop the process. Some materials need more time in the dye than others.
Rene


David Masson wrote:

Rene:for the koo; aid dye how much water do you add or does it matter? also
how much vinegar?
now will the dye come out if it put in water?
thank dave

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: November 6, 2006 5:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] dying feather


David,
wellcome to the next adventure.
there are several on the list who dye their stuff.
I tried with Cool Aid (Yes, the kiddy drink), and easter egg dye.
For feathers you have to add some vinegar. With the easter egg dye I
left the stuff in the solution for a couple of days, with cool aid it
take a shorter time.
Some recomend to put the dye and feathers in the micro-wave, but I had
success without the heat.
Prior to dying you have to degrease the feathers, I use soap or dish liquid.

Have fun!
Rene





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