I feel that I should point out that the original mauvine or mauve coloured dye discovered by William Perkin in 1856 was a substance called aniline and was extracted from coal tar and not sea urchin.
Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pacres Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets The article in FF&FT was August 2006 pg 40. On 11/13/06, Reuven Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which month and year was it in FF&FT?? > ______________________________________________ > Reuven Segal > > B. Engineering (Aerospace)- Final Year > B. Engineering (Manufacturing Systems and Management) > RMIT University > > 5/11 Rockbrook Road, > East St. Kilda, 3183 > Melbourne, Victoria > Australia > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mobile: 0422 266798 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pacres > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2006 1:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets > > > Turmeric is a spice. If you have ever worked with it, you'll notice it > stains your hands a nice mustard yellow colour. > > There are quite a few natural dyes out there, and beet is one. There > is an article in the Fly tying and Fly Fishing which details the > Perkin fly and how the dye colour was originated from Sea Urchin. > > This may open up a new discussion on colecting a colour set of natural > dyes for fly tying. > > -- > http://flyangler.ca - Canadian Fly Fishing > > > On 11/12/06, David Masson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > a uick question what is turmeric? > > dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Alexander > > Sent: November 12, 2006 2:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets > > > > > > When I used to make hand made soap, I used beets a pretty good bit, so I > > think it would work on fly tying material.. We (in soapmaking) also use > > "turmeric" (sp) to dye a yellow color, Chuck > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Reuven Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:44 PM > > Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets > > > > > > > Just jumping on this discussion: > > > > > > Has anyone ever dyed materials using Beets? > > > I put some cutting/skins in water overnight and this morning it was a > > > perfect colour for what I would like to try on some duns. Anyone can > offer > > > some advice?? > > > R > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > Reuven Segal > > > > > > B. Engineering (Aerospace)- Final Year > > > B. Engineering (Manufacturing Systems and Management) > > > RMIT University > > > > > > 5/11 Rockbrook Road, > > > East St. Kilda, 3183 > > > Melbourne, Victoria > > > Australia > > > > > > reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Mobile: 0422 266798 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Masson > > > Sent: Sunday, 12 November 2006 1:21 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers > > > > > > > > > Hi Darren: > > > Thank i just got a e-mail from rangerbob, he said to get a hold of you. > > > I'll be looking forward to see the video he said you would be doing,i,ll > > > try > > > your style and see what happen,what i'm tring to get is a royal blue on > > > the > > > dark side.I'm using white feathers for this we'll see what happen thank > > > for > > > your help. > > > dave > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pacres > > > Sent: November 10, 2006 9:56 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [VFB] Dying Feathers > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in on the subject. > > > > > > I have not tried the microwave method, but opt not to because it is > > > much harder to control the temperature. > > > > > > Here is what I do. > > > > > > 1. Soak the feather / hair for at least 2 hours with shampoo. Better > > > saturation, and cleaner feathers make for a better dye lot. > > > > > > 2. Rinse the feathers off well. > > > > > > 3. Mix your dye with water. Use a ratio of dye to weight of product > > > being dyed. If your not sure, go lighter. It's really tought to dye > > > lighter. > > > > > > 4. Add the feathers and bring the temperature up to 140 F slowly. Use > > > a thermometer for meat to check it. > > > > > > 5. Make sure you stir it well. > > > > > > 6. Add vinigar about 10% of the water volume > > > > > > 7. Let it sit. I ussually let it sit overnight. It produces intense > > > colours. If it's not dark enough, add more dye and reheat to 140. > > > > > > 8. rinse until it runs clear > > > > > > 9. Add a bit of conditioner to help keep the feathers moist. > > > > > > 10. air dry. turn the hair or feathers and put lots of paper towel or > > > newspaper underneath > > > > > > I will be creating a tutorial that goes into depth at some point soon. > > > I'll keep you posted. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > -- > > > http://flyangler.ca - Canadian Fly Fishing > > > > > > > > > -- http://flyangler.ca - Canadian Fly Fishing
