Glenn,

You are a treasure trove of information.  This was very interesting thanks
for sharing.  I feel bad I could not get all the way up to you this year.
Maybe next.

Mike


On 11/29/06, Glenn Overton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Wes , your are one of the wonderful people here and thinking of pasting
on the experience of others that are more then sixty years old and still and
because of then they were still ahead of their time. Then there are those
that are having trouble and new to this wonderful life of fly tying , The
rewards,teaching and pasting on those that took the time to show me is the
reason I taught free classes for years.
Wes, with a 16 -5x short or similar hook ,with a down eye hook you have a
greater line of pull for hooking and once a fish takes you fly as the roll
on the surface all you need to hook the fish is just by tighting up on the
line. Remember the distance the hook needs to travel to hook a fish is from
the point to the barb. Small flies usually all you need for the bodies is
thread and in lighter flies ,yellow etc I like a dyed strip hackle quill
,usually with a water proof marker. Walt Dettie explored ,tying flies all
white and to match the hatch ,just color in with a water proof
marker as needed. I have lots of stories like this to share...Glenn Overton

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Wes Wada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* [email protected]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:58 PM
*Subject:* Re: [VFB] Your crazy using small gap hooks..Here's an answer...


Good info on the hooks and numbers Glenn, Thanks!  I think I am going to
tie on a small sample of a number of these to see which I like the best.  I
do know that I prefer hooks that are not light wire.  I throw away a fortune
in flies every season because the hooks bend open (and I use mostly #16-#20
Daiichi, Tiemco and DaiRiki in that order).  Losing fish because the hook
bends is a nice problem to have, but the batting average could be improved,
and I think heavier wire would be helpful.

Wes


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