Hi George , We been tying at the same number of years and the rewards we get surpass any competition. George.remember seeing a student catching their first trout on a dry fly. The lives we change ,what rewards when we see how we have change lives bring families together and fly fish and developed friends and close friendship that otherwise would be possible. Then the rewards getting the Army Corps of Engineers to change their minds that canalization and draining ditch tactics don't work ,while learning to tie flies got more interested in creating insect population, developed a 50 /50 pool and stream flow racial .Then the rewards ,seeing that I have pass on the tying skills of those that taught me and now see others ,my students ,are now passing it on and also from others they have learn from. How many times ,we have seen our students getting involve and taking a active pare in Trout Unlimited ,Federation Of Fly Fisherman ,local get together and other fly fishing groups, and like those that you may have influence to go to Mansfield in Pennsylvania and other great schools ,getting involve in a fishery degree.

George , My hometown is Elmira ,New York and the reason I spent allot of time fly fishing Potter and Tioga County. Move to Vestal,N.Y. where I got into teaching fly tying and was the few first people in T.U. to have a fly of the month. Got to know the wonderful tiers around Roscoe,New York before there was people showing up. Tied at some of the first gatherings at Roscoe and also tied at the Rod and Gun Club in Galeton Pa. on Pine Creek. And Steve at Fisherman Paradise Fly Shop started to teach ,using my style of tying the thorax dry fly and is in his catalog today.The list is much longer then this ,but wanted to let you know how I was connected .
Glenn Overton

----- Original Message ----- From: "George Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] I want to enter a tying competition....


Ed, don't be intimidated to do something that you are not comfortable with. I have been tying for 36 years and teaching fly tying at my flyfishers club for 4 years and doing demos for my TU group for several years.

I tie for enjoyment and at a relaxed pace. Competition tying is just not my bag. One of my students entered the PA competition in Harrisburg last year and while he really ties some nice flies, he just couldn't handle the pressure of timed tying. Several members tried to suck me in to entering, but I stood my ground.

The bottom line is to do what you are comfortable with.

I tie flies and fish for trout for relaxation and enjoyment. If competition is what I want, I would play golf or enter bass tournaments.

Just my $0.02

George Vincent
----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 20:16
Subject: [VFB] I want to enter a tying competition....


Hi everyone,

I have a little delema. there is a fly tying competition coming up, but i'm a little nervous about entering it. I have been tying since I was four (I'm 28 now), but I still do not think I'm good enough to enter. My buddies, who I taught to tie, have all entered a fly, but as the deadline approaches I feel kinda worried. see, I have never tied traditionally before, that is with set proportions. I just tie what I feel the fish will bite, and away I go. I guess I feel I'm just not that good. any suggestions? has anyone ever felt like this or am I just being paranoid? ed

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