Paul/Everybody... This brings up an interesting thing I was watching last night... I was watching a Tying video with Dave Whitlock, and he was tying a red squirrel tail nymph.. and he had a stick with the hook side of Velcro glued to that stiff to "tease out" some of the "dubbing" of the fly.. Then, he stuck that fly to the body of the dubbed body nymph and it stuck fast... Well, he said. seeing as how trout, bluegills, crappie, bass and a LOT of other fish, have tiny teeth that act like that Velcro, that a spiky bodied "dubbed" nymph (as opposed to a hard back, or slick backed nymph) the fish might TRY to spit the fly out and could not, thus allowing the fisherman to hook more fish...Once I saw that demo I agree with him.. He also did a test with a "mashed down" barb vs a barbed hook and it took THREE times the amount of pressure to "pierce" a basses mouths as did a barbed hook, as the barb is a "wedge" that widens, and it takes three times the force to get that hook to pierce.. Also, that meant that is was easier to remove the debarbed hook , thus not hurting the fish, nor tearing up the fly in the removal process. Also, and certainly VERY IMPORTANT, it means that if you pierce your own skin/flesh, it would be three times as easy (ie less painful too LOL) to removed the debarbed hook...So, from now on, as he does, I'm "flattening" all my barbs using the vise as he does in the video...Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] A new angle of discussion


HOWEVER, from considerable observation on real streams, I know for a
fact that trout will bite on "anything" resembling food that is FULLY
SUBSURFACE and drifting naturally. The word BITE must be qualified to
read TASTE. I have watched them take everything that drifts close enough
to their position into their mouth, retaining the good stuff and almost
instantaneously ejecting the trash. Sometimes the trash has a hook
"hidden" inside and doesn't leave as planned, or a moments hesitation
has let the fly get too deep in the mouth for easy ejection.

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