Jack the concept here is tye a fly to fool a fish........ ie the foam can be 
compensated for by using weights built into the design of the underbody....to 
reproduce the "normal" attributes of a crawfish.......walking along the bottom. 
My curent experiments have involved incorporated a standard bullet head jig 
into the design..to get it down. The action, comes  from the angler. The trick 
is to keep it light enough not to scare the quarry..and heavy enough to get 
down to the bottom gravel. This is not a fast water fly....... but is a killer 
on bass and big brown trout..... they love crayfish !!!! (P.S. the floatation 
allows the front to ride up like a defensive craw...very natural appearing..... 
and it conceals the lead head in the tail.
  Brent
  http://www.mainefishingtoday.com/aroostookbasser
  

Jack Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I don't understand one thing about this whole thread.  Every LIVING crawfish 
I've ever seen was on or near the bottom, yet foam floats.  You are are either 
not presenting the fly realisticly or else you are weighting it too heavily to 
get normal actions.  Furry Foam would be better, but ... still?  How do you get 
it down?

Jack
Austin

brent reece wrote:     Garry,
  I understand....... try the crafters foam sold at Walmart....(kids 
crafts).... i use it to form beetles, hoppers and assorted other 
dragonflies/hardshell insects. This is the high density foam...not seat cushion 
stuff. Costs .48 per 1 foot square sheet...makes 100's of bugs. Adapting it to 
your Crayfish.....will send you details. Foam floats well....so I am 
experimenting with counter weight to get it to sink right.
  Brent

"Garry V. Wiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Brent,

When I saw the pattern myself, they were using the tan/brown version of that -- 
cushion foam.  I had black/grey from computer hard drives that we had bought at 
work, so I used it.  I like the foam b/c it's softer and wraps around nicely.


Garry




At 10:46 AM 1/15/2007, you wrote:
  Great post Garry !!!!!!!!!! Love the pattern.........but why use that grey 
"packing" foam...... craft foam easier to build with and stiffer.

"Garry V. Wiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    
   After sending Allan, a copy of the pictures I took earlier today, he 
  
   said they were clear enough for him to get the idea of what I was 
  
   talking about. So here are the links:


  
   http://home.comcast.net/~garrywiles/100_0881.JPG

  
   http://home.comcast.net/~garrywiles/100_0882.JPG

  
   http://home.comcast.net/~garrywiles/100_0884.JPG

  
   http://home.comcast.net/~garrywiles/100_0885.JPG

  
   As you can see, the foam splits the marabou tail forming the marabou 
  
   claws (you can trim these back as you like) and the foam is then made 
  
   into the back of the crayfish.

  
   If anyone has any other questions, let me know. I'm still trying to 
  
   find where on the net that I found the pattern myself.


  
   Garry



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