one solution would certainly be to throw money at the problem, i.e.:
- get more HD space
- get a faster/more CPU(s)
- shell out for an mpeg2 encoder card

you probably don't want to do that though.
but it's rather obvious that encoding twice will prove to take quite a 
hit on quality, because you can't really compress binary data losslessly 
(unless there's some sweet algorithm for YUV, i don't know).

Otherwise, I'd suggest the HD solution, since harddrive space is 
becoming cheaper and cheaper. I recently bought a 60GB drive for $120 
(or something) so that might be an option. Or, just get a second drive. 
Otherwise, I don't think there is a solution to your problem.
Marcel (the unknowledgable one)

Trevor Boicey wrote:

>  Iposted this to the mjpeg list but it might be worth
>discussing here as well:
>
>=====
>
>  This question might take a bit of explaining, so bear with me.
>
>  Like a lot of the world it seems, I have a linux box that
>is working as a PVR.
>
>  It's a celeron-500 with a 30G disk, a bt848 card, lirc receiver,
>and some software that I've crufted up that basically calls
>other apps to encode, save, play, etc. according to a
>simple scheduler and a remote-control menu. Probably
>what a lot of people here have running.
>
>  Up to now, I've been using mp1e to record in real time
>directly to the file I wanted to keep. So I'd run mp1e
>with a VCD-sized frame, a suitable bit rate, and that would
>be the file that I would later watch.
>
>  However, the more I use it, the more I realize that even
>given a high bitrate mp1e still doesn't look very good, and
>being a real-time encoder, I don't really blame it. It looks
>horrible at 500kbps, acceptable at 1Mbps, but doesn't seem
>to get any better looking even at 5Mbps or more at the same
>resolution.
>
>  It sounds like to get the best quality file, I would
>capture directly in YUV format and then recompress it
>later with mjpeg to get my video files.
>
>  Enter mjpeg...
>
>  The problem with this is that I sometimes need to record
>2-3 hours a night, and I don't have nearly enough disk
>space to record 2-3 hours of YUV data.
>
>  So... I've been experimenting with this:
>
>- Recording with mp1e at 640x480 (v4l size) at a fairly
>high bitrate of about 5Mbps. The goal is to get as few
>compression artifacts as possible at this stage but still to
>be able to record a busy evening's stuff with only 4-5G of
>scratch space.
>
>- After taping, recompressing the video with mjpeg, this seems to work
>decently well at a reasonable 3-4 fps.
>
>cat $1_large.mpg
> | mpeg2dec -s -o YUVh
> | nice -n 20 yuvdenoise
> | mpeg2enc -4 1 -2 1 -s -f 1 -o $1_temp.m1v
>
>  This produces acceptable results. I lose a few gigs when I tape
>but overnight scripts recompress the video and I get the space
>back. I leave about 4G free at all times so I have about 26G
>to store programs and the system is happy.
>
>  The quality is fairly watchable and better overall than
>straight mp1e was even at twice the bitrate. However, there
>still are some visual funnies that are very likely the effect
>of double-compressing, and I am looking at ways to improve
>the final quality.
>
>  Is there a better method of doing what I am trying to do?
>
>  Basically what I could use is something that can do real
>time capture with the highest possible quality in say, 2G per
>hour of video. (an order of magnitude more than mpeg1 but
>an order of magnitude less than straight YUV)
>
>  Then I could postprocess down to VCD in the wee hours with
>mjpeg.
>
>  Ideas? Suggestions?
>
>




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