Billy Biggs wrote:
> Petr Vandrovec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> 
>>>Sometime in the past, Gerd wrote:
>>>
>>>>Another (and IMHO better) approach is to allow multiple
>>>>applications queue up capture requests.  If a second application
>>>>asks for a video frame while the driver is busy capturing the
>>>>frame for the first application, it can simply put the request
>>>>into a queue instead of returning -EBUSY.  This might need some
>>>>more changes through (depending on the current driver design).
>>
>>I think that it is very bad idea. You should either support delivering
>>one buffer to more than one app (like current vloopback does), or you
>>should return BUSY. Otherwise if you start second grabber application
>>(by mistake or whatever) while one is already running, you'll start
>>seeing missed frames for no apparent reason.
>>
>>But of course if you have some ideas how to handle such case without
>>disturbing existing grabbing/output processes...
> 
> 
>   I agree.  Dropping frames is very bad.  Wouldn't multi-application
> grabbing be handled best by some userspace library?  Similarily for
> loopbacking etc?  There's too much desired functionality (colourspace
> conversion, jpeg decoding, compression API, multi-apps, etc) that seems
> to demand a standard userspace component.  The V4L2 API might be too
> complex if you start to add too much.
> 

I am new to the V4L2 world, but I have the strong feeling that a v4l2 userspace 
library is a very sensible approach.
The V4L2 interface seems to go in a direction where every stream format is 
passed more or less unchanged to userspace. This leads to a situation where 
application developers have to understand ( and implement ) every single format 
in order support a wide range of video devices.

IMHO, Billy's idea would provide a good solution for this: A userspace library 
which handles various format transformations, if necessary, and which presents
_one a few_ possible output formats to the user. The V4L2 API already is quite 
complicated, and sometimes, less is more...

'Norbert





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