counted in the group ... actually I wanted to point something out,
that may be missing from all these conversations (though I'm sure
others are thinking it).
I love this group and I still get a lot out of it ... the positive,
for me, still far outweighs the negative ... first of all, you can
ignore the emotional/flame war threads if you want, but I admit I read
them and watch my emotions and feel human and sort of enjoy it ... if
nothing else what a great video Mel made that resulted from all the
commotion ... I strongly recommend it, if you haven't seen it ... it's
a classic ...
http://melslife.org/archives/2005/07/20/dr-phil-can-you-please-help/
.. this video, to me, demonstrates a great attitude and perspective -
by emphasizing the humor it diffuses all the built up drama our minds
create - the thing is, none of it's real, it's just our minds, it's
just life, it's funny, and we (including me) have an unfortunate
tendency to identify with the drama our mind creates, rather than
just watching and appreciating it ...
... anyway, this list is a bunch of very human humans, sure, but it's
still great and I wouldn't think about un-subscribing for a second -
unless I get kicked out for double posting and starting too many
threads :) ... Richard, the Yahoo Vlog Group list lover
On 7/22/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've heard of this...
>
> so, you feel that the group is undergoing some passive-aggressive social
> dilemma here?
>
> i think when a few people stir up things and amp up the noise level...
> people will get flustered... it ripples.
> those who enjoy interacting using this list will find it hard to restrain
> from responding to some postings....
> their is also the ego element... even when you denounce the big ego, in
> doing so publicly, it is almost no different.
>
> people like to be witty... some get too nasty. gotta keep balance... stay
> tuned, always.
>
> the numbers are in the back of our head... we see how many posts are made
> and how many people join the group..
> it can subconsciously hype you... and that leads to potential brazenness.
>
> it's also summer..... and hot most places... known to be a player in
> amplifying craze in all of us.
> any extreme weather, actually.
>
> i think things are ok... we have experienced social spikes (for good or
> bad) here before....
> way it is.
>
> we should remember that what we write is being portentially read by over
> 1000 people...
> are some playing for an audience or just looking to talk the vlog?
>
> we need more video.... summer of vlog yo.. and I gotta get my act together.
>
> maybe I will do a rant piece today...
>
> sull
>
> On 7/22/05, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I've been reading The Tipping Point by Malcom Gladwell which is a
> > fascinating book. I just finished the chapter about groups of 150.
> > For those of you who haven't read the book here's a quick summary of
> > this idea via, http://tinyurl.com/45rhj
> >
> > THE MAGIC NUMBER 150
> > "There seems to be some limitation built into us either by learning
> > or by the design of the nervous systems, a limit that keeps our
> > channel capacities in this general range (i.e. the human minds
> > inability to comprehend things beyond sets 7)" George Miller "The
> > Magical Number Seven"
> >
> > "The figure of 150 seems to represent the maximum number of
> > individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship,
> > the kind of relationship that goes with knowing who they are and how
> > they relate to us. Putting it another way, it's the number of people
> > you would not feel embarrassed about joining uninvited for a drink if
> > you happened to bump into them in a bar." Robin Dunbar,
> >
> > 1. Even relatively small increases in the size of a group [beyond
> > 150] creates a significant additional social and intellectual burden.
> > 2. The rule of 150 suggests that the size of a group is another
> > one of those subtle contextual factors that can make a big difference.
> > 3. Peer pressure is much more powerful than a concept of a boss
> > 4. Transactive memory: we store information with other people.
> > Since mental energy is limited, we concentrate on what we do best.
> > 5. Groups of 150 are an organized mechanism that makes it far
> > easier for new ideas and information moving around the organization
> > to tip; to go from one person or one part of the group to the entire
> > group all at once.
> >
> > So this got me thinking about how, it seems to me, the tone and
> > demeanor of the group has altered in the last couple of weeks. Now I
> > know this group is larger than 1000 people but most don't post at
> > all. To me the group feels like a group of the people who post
> > regularly. So I went back and counted how many people posted at
> > least twice in the last month. My quick count - 145! Could it be
> > that this group is reacting not to any individual or small group of
> > posters but rather have we begun to reach "the maximum number of
> > individuals with whom we can have a genuinely social relationship?"
> >
> > Verdi
> > http://michaelverdi.com
> > http://freevlog.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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