must keep the cloudy benefits. its all about tapping into a tagging infrastructure.
on the same note, i also feel that author only tags should accompany community tags.. so i agree with Andreas.
there is no reason to exclude that ability... its only a matter of intutively implementing it.
sull
On 8/4/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to
> compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not
> created equal.
This is exactly why its important for an open tagging system to refer
back to the originating tagging service.
Del.icio.us is a great place to find links about Ruby and Ajax, but
Upcoming.org is a great place to find out about indie rock concerts.
Other tagging islands, or "communities", may have a different focus.
Hopefully FireANT will become a great service for finding *videos*.
What's needed is some kind of glue to stitch these islands together --
not an über system to rule them all.
-Josh
On 8/4/05, Michael Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the islands of tags are a good thing. Tag systems need to
> compete with each other and distinguish from one another. All are not
> created equal. Tag systems in educational sectors will be different
> from tags in entertainment goods. The fact that they're all competing
> allows for rapid trial an error, rapid development and progress. I've
> seen and been in many discussions about the differences between
> different tag systems and the separation and analysis of the subtleties
> is precisely what has caused rapid innovation.
>
> Most importantly out side resources or meta resources like technoratti,
> google and many others can study, compare and bring together all these
> tag systems in interesting ways. All that is important is that they
> interface, that there is some standard interoperability standards for
> comparing, and with tagging there fundamentally are, but we have a lot
> more we can do.
>
> In other words, there is no tag system to rule them all, go, be happy,
> be true to your community and let it evolve separately because that way
> it'll be most useful to your community. Feel free to do stuff
> differently. yeah, it's the think globally act locally routine. Mono
> culture not good... methods in the madness and all that jazz.
>
> Peace,
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Meiser
> http://mmeiser.com/blog - fun stuff
> http://mmeiser.com/backchannel - serious lunacy stuff
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> On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
>
> i decided to hold back from adding tags on vlogdir, which would let
> you tag videoblog site, feeds and the actual media links.
> tagging is cool, but i am a bit frustrated that we have so many
> different laces to tag instead of it all being integrated.
> it makes things too complicated and shouldnt be used as a competitive
> feature.
> this is why we are starting to talk about an Open Tagging system...
> Ro, myself and others from the video vertigo clan will try and work
> this out.
>
> we need to get tag systems unified. otherwise its counter-intuitive
> for the whole of the vlogoshpere and open media culture.
>
> sull
>
> On 8/4/05, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > catalog".I want media of various viewpoints accessible in the
> > future."your home town",
> > > "this year", "this family event", "this labor
> > strike"...whatever."love", "blue", "sliceoflife",
> > > "animation".Tag it what it is!
> > >
> > > Places you can tag:
> > > http://mefeedia.com/
> > > http://blip.tv/
> > > http://del.icio.us/
> > > http://flickr.com/
> > > http://technorati.com/
> > > http://YOUR WEBSITE HERE
> > >
> > > (who else?It's the Wild West of Media right now.Hop on your
> > horse and take it over...but
> > > not like John Wayne.Or Arnie.)
> >
> > you can also tag in FireANT.
> > http://getFireANT.NET
> > just the PC version for now...but the new mac version (coming out
> > soon) will let you tag directly to delicious.
> >
> > this is the year of the video filter.
> >
> > jay
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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