I've just returned from vacation and delving back into all the vibrations here and other places i roam.
I listended to a few vid conf archives today and scanned several threads... trying to catch up.

this message by jen is so useful.... and i was getting ready to dredge up such resources as I knew they existed from prior research I had done when i was planning on creating "artist joints" which is basically what node101 wants to do now except the focus was on more than just videoblogging. 

i decided that the effort to fund raise and upkeep these spaces, even if just one in one city, would be a much deeper burden than i would have been able to handle with just a few people helping.  The original idea was to provide a space that converged a small cafe, a conference room, a theatre and a remaining multi-purpose space to be used for existing needs or scale to new needs.
Quite a lofty concept. 
I then decided to look into creating 'mobile spaces' where these 'artist joints' would borrow available spaces around an area for as long as possible and move on to other coordinated spaces when necessary.  This would require every aspect of the space to be easily transportable assuming that the spaces would not always have certain amenities. 
This would have been both easier and harder compared to stationary spaces... but more affordable since it would mostly be donated space.  There are def pros and cons. 

Which is better?  Node101 would like to have their own space... and I understand why... but its riskier.  You need to have a lot of money to maintain and sustain each space.... and it may not be too enticing to potential patrons if its vlog centric and not catering to other general niches. 

Media Arts Centers are setup for general needs of digital artists.  I think it is important to ask what is really needed verses the dream setup (vlog stations) and to use any contributions wisely... use logic,  which may not nec yield the coolest result.

One of my issues with Current.TV was that they spent hundreds of millions to have their own network, when I feel that they could have used the model and been successful as a channel.  I think that same perception might be applied to Node101.  But I tend to waffle on this a bit, since I had the dream of 'Artist Joints' and it was fucking very cool ;-)

sull


On 8/23/05, Jen Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Markus wrote:
> agreed, but where are there similar facilities that have the
> audience/equipment do not have the limitations?
>
> jan suggested indie film festivals
> schools with multimedia labs are another possibility

Where should videoblogging workshops / classes be taught???
IN MEDIA ARTS CENTERS!!!

There's already a 30+ year old movement of artists, activists, and
non-profit administrators who've been working hard to promote
grassroots creation of media arts (video, film, new media, radio, etc).

Videoblogging has introduced a new form of super-cheap distribution,
and new energy to the idea of every-day people making movies -- but
this is not totally new. Not at all. The movement started when video
cameras were invented + became cheaper and cheaper -- or was is when
Super-8 made home movies possible? Most media arts centers were started
using analog video shooting + editing as their medium, and distribution
through community film festival circuits, libraries, cable access
channels and satellite broadcasting (like Deep Dish). These media arts
centers  offer classes, equipment and networking opportunties for
people interested in creating video and film. Videoblogging is be a
great thing that media arts centers should know about and use in their
work. And the physical resources and infrastructure (and years of
experience with these issues) that all already in place is something
this videoblogging community should put to use.

Anyone who is interested in media arts centers should start by reading
about NAMAC - the National Alliance for Media Arts and Culture.
<URL: http://namac.org/category.cfm?id=6 > NAMAC is a (U.S. based)
national alliance of media arts centers, and they have a database of
such places on their website. Look and see if there is a NAMAC member
in your area:
http://namac.org/directory_org.cfm?id=4&cid=56&monly=0

NAMAC is also having their national conference here in Philadelphia at
the end of September. Verdi, Ryanne, Jay and myself will all be there
teaching about videoblogging and making connections with other people
and organizations -- come to Philly and join us!
http://www.takingliberties2005.org/

There's also a whole library of articles about some of these issues
that are being raised on this list, including fundraising strategies,
organizational development, media policy issues, visual literacy....
http://namac.org/section.cfm?id=2

Don't re-invent the wheel!!!!!! Connect up with those who've come
before !!!

jen



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