or film blog. flog. hehe
On 18 Sep 2005, at 02:12, Randolfe Wicker wrote: > With all this discussion of the need for simple terms, has anyone > considered > using the term "moving picture blogs"? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "andrew michael baron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Video Podcasting? wtf :( > > > This all hints at why terminology IS very important. If a term can > make your friend get, when another term cant, there is something > important there. > > Last night I heard a rally of women speaking out against John > Roberts. Because he is against abortion, they were saying he can not > continue to call them objects, they are individual human beings. > Words DO mean a lot. > > I have complained that Apple calls "video podcats" -> "audioblogs". > This just doesn't feel right. I would feel like a dope if I had to > say videoblogs were "audioblogs". > > Feelings matter too. > > > > On Sep 16, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Bill Streeter wrote: > > >> I agree with Eric, use what works. >> >> > > But Eric was pushing "video podcasting" as the term for everyone. -AB > > > >> Okay, I mentioned this a while back. I'm not a fan of the word blog. >> It's really not a pleasant sounding word. Believe it or not a lot >> of "civilians" I run into still have no clue what a "blog" is. So >> when you start throwing terms like "video blog" or "vlog" you might >> as well be speaking Chinese most of the time. I've given up trying >> to explain what I do in those terms. When I do their eyes glaze >> over. When I say "I put video on the internet" their eyes light up— >> they get it. When I start talking about RSS delivery and enclosures, >> I loose them again. When I say, "it's a video podcast," most of them >> get it again. It may be incorrect, technically, to describe it as >> a "video podcast" but what the fuck? It's close enough and, more >> importantly, people get it. >> >> Example: There is a guy who has a record label that I've done some >> consulting work for. I had a conversation with him about 9 months >> ago about podcasting and video blogging. He's not a moron, and he >> reads blogs and he's fairly technically literate. But I could tell >> that he didn't really get it, I could see that the more I tried to >> explain it the more I was loosing him... >> >> Skip ahead to about 3 weeks ago. I tell him he should open up his >> back catalog to podcasters so the bands he's signed can get some >> play somewhere. His eyes light up, he gets it now… and he tells me >> about all the podcasts he's subscribed to via iTunes. I ask him if >> he's checked out my video blog lately. He said he did recently but >> missed some shit because he forgets to check it regularly. >> >> "Well," I say, "You know that it's actually like a video podcast… >> you can subscribe to it via iTunes" >> >> He gets really excited… "I didn't know they had VIDEO podcasts!!" >> >> "Yeah, of course" I tell him "there's no video ipod yet but you can >> get the stuff downloaded automatically to your computer, in the same >> way as a podcast, and iTunes plays video." And I explain to him that >> he can subscribe in one click—pretty damn easy. Now did I know that >> it was a slight mischaracterization to call it a "video podcast?" >> yeah, but was I going to let that stop the conversation? HELL NO! He >> was getting it! >> >> Obviously the new popularity of the term "Podcast" was the reason he >> finally "got it." >> >> Vlogging, Vlog, video blog, video podcast… I'll use whatever works, >> whatever people understand. Right now that seems to be "podcast" for >> better or worse. >> >> Bill Streeter >> www.lofistl.com >> >> >> >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan >>> >>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> it sucks. sorry eric. it sucks. i dont like it for audio, i >>>> >>>> >> certainly dont >> >> >>>> like it for video. an iPod and any mobile device is only one- >>>> >>>> >> part of the big >> >> >>>> scheme of things anyways. >>>> i wont dare suggest a new word for audiocasts at this point >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I agree-- It is a lame term, and it splattered everywhere and >>> >>> >> stuck. *hard*. I guarantee that >> >> >>> the second the media gets hold of it, they'll do the easy and the >>> >>> >> natural, and the learning >> >> >>> curve is chopped to shit, because half of the phrase is known. >>> >>> More than likely I think we'll see that the terms get used >>> >>> >> interchangeably. I'm compltely >> >> >>> arbitrary when I use video podcast vs videoblog. If I'm talking to >>> >>> >> consumers, I use VP. If I'm >> >> >>> talkin to youse guys, it's vb (or if I'm lazy, it's vlog.) >>> >>> At least that's how my head works. Heh. >>> >>> ER >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -------------------- >> ~--> >> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! >> http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ~-> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! 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