Ok, first of all, I didn't get invited and I don't really care.  It's just I 
have been reading the 
list lately and many of the topics don't interest me right now... As someone 
who works in 
development of a couple "open media" programs, I am not a programmer-- like how 
Josh 
put it.  But it wasn't filled with programmers.  There were people on all sides 
of the open 
media workhorse.  From programmers to dreamers-- which is a good thing.  I have 
often 
sat in these sorts of things where its only programmers.  I don't have to 
program to know 
what I'm talking about in the Personal Media Revolution (catchphrases are fun!).

What was strange was to have this "hey, I just walked into this and it's 
great-- watch us on 
the live stream!"  Then to have us look at pics of you guys talking.  Nothing 
wrong with 
it-- someone may want a new desktop pic-- it was just a little strange. 
Unmediated.com 
was one of the hosts of the event and you guys help with Unmediated.  It's your 
event, and 
you invited us to watch you talk.  No big whoop.  

I hope it was a success and a lot of positive things came out of it-- which is 
what happens 
when you get smart, passionate people all in one room.  If you havent been in 
that 
situation folks, you are missing out.  And don't blame Josh and Jay-- only YOU 
can get 
yourself into those situations.  Don't blame one closed door.  Especially when 
we are 
talking about these sorts of things.  Closed doors are a given.

If they wanted it bigger and with sponsorship they could have gone that route, 
but they 
didn't.  Whatever.

Conference Politics are a bitch and this wasn't even a conference.

Hey, the Flash Conference is in a half-hour-- maybe someone will be there and 
we can 
really get the blood boiling!:)

(mine is just filled with coffee right now...that's my excuse for such a long 
email so late in 
the day.)
love
schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://webzine2005.com



--- In [email protected], Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Okay, constraints noted. But, as previously noted, with no warning at all,
> it was impossible for most of us to participate even via the live chat or
> stream (had it been working properly). In all the rush, none of you - many
> of whom are active on this list - could remember to drop us a line?
> 
> Of course anyone has a right to run whatever event they want to in whatever
> way they want to, but, after all the democratic rhetoric in this group, it
> gets up my nose to find out about an "invitation only" event only after the
> fact, and to see a list of familiar names among the attendees, many of whom
> I would not define as developers (in fact, JD Lasica referred to the group
> as "developers, filmmakers, citizens media advocates and other creative
> people"). It feels exclusive, in a bad way. Is that where y'all want to be
> going with the concept of OPEN media?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/25/05, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think this is silly.
> > It was a summit for developers, not a conference.
> > Space was extremely limited, it was put together very quickly, and
> > completely out of pocket.
> > If the organizers choose to do a conference with sponsors and the whole
> > she-bang next time, then that would certainly be great, but as it was there
> > were serious constraints on resources and there was barely enough space for
> > those who were invited.
> >
> > There was an open chat and an open stream on the web though.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> best regards,
> Deirdré Straughan
> 
> www.beginningwithi.com <http://www.beginningwithi.com> (personal)
> www.tvblob.com <http://www.tvblob.com> (work)
>






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