Loving this thread. After meeting Walter Wright at Lowell (MA) Telecommunications Center and seeing his lecture on the history of video mixing, I was hooked on the idea of VJ'ing.
At about the same time, purchased a large projector. I'm ready. The VJ's I met at Lowell were of the same stripe as vloggers, technically; there's an intersection of interest for sure that will benefit both communities. Let the dialog begin. Jan -- "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadnode101/ - education http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media http://the-hold.blogspot.com - literature . On Oct 28, 2005, at 2:32 AM, jean_poole wrote: > from Bertrand: >>> It's true that video production in a VJ context is really time > consuming, > most of the time I don't record my video-mixes, because it's extra work > (video input, sound level check, extra hardware...) before a gig and > after a > gig (derush..). and when it come to publish them on line, it still some > extra work... > > Hi Bertrand... > I hear you - but we're meant to be encouraging these video bloggers > to play with the VJ stuff ;-) > I rarely record gigmixes either... though it's always fruitful when I > do... > i think the real-time tools and skills though, aside from being used > at gigs - > are great for also cutting together clips in your own time... > > i'm very interested in applying the same amount of work to say a > short film or music video - > - but to producing modular sections - which can then be jammed live - > - or reworked into small distinct pieces for blogs etc... > >>> And well, video projections in a club or on stage with some extra > lights, > smoke, sound and people is quite different from the raw recording of > the > videomix that will feed those tiny compressed video ! > > Aye :-) > and watching a clip at home - or on a handheld is also a different > experience.. > but i think people who play a lot with on-screen imagery and dynamics, > have a good headstart for figuring out how to produce interesting web > or handheld suited video... > >>> I may focus now on "how to" and home made experiments short clips, > explaining how I create my own vj software and interaction, like that > one : > http://mjukma.free.fr/index.php/2005/10/27/96-scratching-with-midi- > and-webcam > > i liked that - i couldn't find any direct links to text information > about 'scramble' on your site tho.... > and yeah VJs tend to forget how much 'useful' ;-) real-time video > knowledge they've picked up over the years... > much of that can be pretty useful to other video people curious about > other ways to make video... > > and re>> > VJ Falk gives a thoughtful response to Jean Poole's "Open Call for > http://www.prototypen.com/blog/falk/archive/001356.html > -- Enric > > & my response ;-) > > greetings meester falk :-) > > i wasn't saying VJs & videobloggers will overthrow mainstream media... > > am just trying to encourage some more cross VJ / video blogger > dialogue is all.. and think that if more video people investigated > each other's communities, we'd have a greater skilled set of video > people - able to better produce, showcase, and distribute their work... > > I've really enjoyed being part of both communities ( actively within > VJing, mostly reading within the videoblogging circuit ) and have > been surprised there hasn't been more crossover... > > Making compelling content *is* difficult, agreed - whether you spend > half a day or half a month on something... but I guess what seems > novel at the moment - is the sense of opportunity for those who might > wish to make compelling content, to be able to distribute this more > easily than ever before... which will only increase as handhelds and > mobile phone video takes off... > > The same way sites like boing boing have emerged to stake out a > niche, a channel, a brand even - videoblog sites like rocketboom are > starting to carve out niches for themselves > > a lot of video iPod and itunes users are starting to wander around to > see what kinds of video they can download... and compared to cable tv > their isnt much there at the moment in terms of dedicated channels - > some of these 'channels' could feasibly be filled by VJs who are into > graphic design and animation and post a new clip each week, some > could be filled by VJs who manage to tell a story with their work > > what's interesting is that we seem to have a window to *invent* some > of these channels now... or even invent a new format - some hybrid > between a serialised tv show, blog and online computer game...? the > pipes are falling into place, with the right tools and thoughtful > architecture much is possible :-) > > .. and i like the idea of *more* channels made by people from the > ground up rather than beamed down from the mighty towers to fill the > perceived gaps... > how many of those 'ground-up' channels figure out a way to pay > themselves, who knows... but ze opportunities are there... > > it's good to see your video blog establishing a niche... i'd love to > see more people starting up and giving it a go.... > > to any VJs & videobloggers curious about each other ;-) I'd suggest > the best way to find out more is to >> > join one of the "other" mailing lists, read up the archives, there's > plenty of inspiring writing and dialogue out there.... tune in to the > conversations and start understanding about how u can harness some of > these "other tools" for video creation ( VJing) or distribution > ( vlogs)... > > more power to u~! > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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