Really it comes down to the intent of the creator and their goals in terms of reaching an audience.
Some people make stuff for a generalized (and thus larger) audience. This type of content needs to be "entertaining" or somehow have value that is in demand by a rather general demographic.
Some people make stuff for a very specific target audience. This could be specific information like Sull has pointed out (board meetings), or it could be stuff that I want to share with friends and family.
Some people could give a shit about an audience. They only care about making the stuff and putting it online. They are satisfied simply with that. That's fine... but just because you can say or do whatever you want doesn't entitle you to an audience.
Now, all this gets a little blurry because its happening in public form on the Internet. So, some audiences can change rapidly and sometimes unexpectedly. Sometimes things intended for a specific taget audience can suddenly bubble up and reach millions... e.g. there's been a Wendy's fast food employee training video that has been passed around the Net for a couple years. Do you think they had any idea that would get out of the bag when it was only meant to be seen by new Wendy's employees? Is that a "show"? Not really, though it does appeal to a larger audience than they had originally intended.
Or for a more vloggy example, take Ryanne's videoblog for instance... She's been covered in the mainstream media and reaches sometimes thousands of viewers, but really is hardly ever making anything intended for an audience greater than her friends and family... sometimes its not even for them, but just for herself.
So it really comes down to intent of the creator and their goals for reaching an audience... or not.
-josh
On 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan
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i see... you took the ending of my point and excluded the beginning.
so, its out of context.
in talking specifically about the word 'show', i pointed out that it would be hard to call a corporate internal videoblog of boring meetings a 'show'.
might not be a practical example, but just making a point about the relationship of the words 'show' and 'entertainment'
sullOn 12/5/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:but what part of what i said do you disagree with, specifically?
thanks.On 12/5/05, andrew michael baron < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Dec 5, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> if its within a videoblog form.... the word 'show' would be hard
> to use. they would just be videos.
>
I disagree. And so, what you are getting at here is the word "blog".
It is important. As you all know, I have always looked to the history
of "the blog" when discussing "format" for videoblogs. How can you
not when using that word?
Its not "personal vs. show" that distinguishes the qualities that so
many outspoken people here on this list focus on in order to separate
all of us into two camps where one does not get to use the word
"videoblog' because its show. We can also leave "podcasting" out of
it; Podcasting is a matter of fact: it is or it isn't because its
based on technology (rss enclosure), not format.
Videoblogging is more lose in definition because it is defined by
many factors, some technologically based, and others "format based".
When a word is in flux based on "format", then what you have is a
bunch of linguistic, metaphysical referents that do not have clear
borders. Like the word 'love' can not be defined.
Yet, in doing our best to not speak in universals when discussing
these things, we can notice patterns and attitudes, whether they are
informed or not.
With blogging, you have personal diaries, and you have show, but
there is so much more that it's silly to just focus on these two. Its
shortsighted because what we see now is only just the obvious. The
real beauty has yet to show itself, as more and more people begin to
consider these same questions.
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