On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:34:03 +0100, wtrainbow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In [email protected], "Andreas Haugstrup"  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> No. I was not trying to put down a definition. I don't know where you
>> got that idea. A definition would include other factors that exclude
>> Deperate Housewives in a blog template (because they are not read as a
>> blog).
>
> Then what is your definition of videblog? You seem to prefer to refer to  
> yourself as a
> videoblogger but aren't you a video podcaster as well if I can watch  
> your posts in iTunes?

We weren't talking definitions until you came along. Do you realise how  
hot the waters tend to get when that topics comes around? There was a  
reason I was only making one point about there being a difference, and not  
a definition discussion.

That said my current videoblog definition runs at 67,000 characters. I  
would summarize, but then you would just attack it as being a  
generalization (even though it has to be since it's a summary). I would be  
happy to send it to you, but it's in Danish.

>> I was trying to get the point across that reading "videoblogs" in a
>> blog, or in FireANT is a different ballgame than watching videoblogs
>> on an iPod in the bus.
>
> True but you don't decide how a consumer views your video if you're  
> including a feed or
> make it available as a download. If you truly wanted to be a true  
> videoblogger (i.e the
> require the viewer to remain in the "context" of the blog) why even  
> offer RSS and allow
> people to view the video in iTunes or other aggregators?

You are creating problems where there are none. Many videoblogs can be  
remediated into vodcasts - I'm saying when you do it is no longer a  
videoblog, it is something else. I'm not calling judgement on anyone. I'm  
not saying that to be a "true" videoblogger you have to force your viewers  
to view your content in a certain way. That would be very silly, I'm all  
for the free movement of content - Meiser is the resident evangelist and  
I'm all behind him.

What I *am* saying is that when you do move content from one media to  
another the content is not unaffected. Thus a videoblog moved to an iPod  
is no longer a videoblog for that viewing situation.

>> I'm talking with Michael Meiser. He's a smart guy. I'm not trying to
>> talk to a general audience - If I was I wouldn't drop names like
>> McLuhan in the middle of things.
>
> Although it's not a general audience, this forum includes over 2000  
> people. If you want to
> behave like a bunch of mandarins why not keep it off list?

I don't want to behave like a mandarin. My point is that I can't speak to  
the lowest common denominator every time. If I did we'd never get anywhere.

>> Being informal and personal is a factor in blogs, but it's just as big
>> a factor in what I called video podcasting. You can't distinguish
>> based on it.
>
> You certainly can make distinctions based on content.  Documentaries and  
> narrative films
> are both movies but are cleary different (i.e. fiction and fact) in  
> their content.  You don't
> think these are useful distinctions?

Read what I write instead of what you want to read. I was speaking of a  
specific situation. Since videoblogs and vodcasts both share the personal  
factor you cannot use that factor to distinguish between the two. It is  
only logical.

- Andreas
-- 
<URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ >
Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology.


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