--- In [email protected], "Andreas Haugstrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:17:13 +0100, Mike Meiser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 12/24/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be > >> automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this > >> can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but just > >> about anything can be put into a manual process.) So I think this is > >> an intermediate medium to Blogging. I'd call it a Tivo medium with > >> the iPod containing similar capacity. It lacks the full two way > >> interaction of Blogs, but contains the automatic storage, scanning and > >> retrieval capability. > > In this case you can look at three kinds of interactivity. > > - Transmission. Viewer selects from preprogrammed flow of content. The > way tv works. Not really much interactivity, but hey. > - Consultation. Viewer selects from a pool of content. Video on-demand, > Tivo, iPod. Web reading works by consultation also, but it's different > from video on-demand (see below). > - Conversation. Viewer can add content to the pool of content (affecting > the viewing situation for others). Integrated on blogs. Not present in > video on-demand. > > That's a simplified view on interactivity. In reality I subscribe to a > variation where there is a fourth type (registration) and they're ordered > in a cube with a total of 12 different types. But this is enough for my > point here. No, I didn't think up the cube model, but I wish I did. > > Blogs and video on-demand are both forms of consultative interactivity. > There is a pool of content and the reader picks which ones to watch and in > which order to read them. But they are different nevertheless. In video > on-demand situations the individual pieces are not seen as being part of a > whole. They are individual blocks - you pick something to watch, you watch > it and then you pick something else to watch (or you create a playlist > ahead of time). The typical situation is an iPod or a DVD (menu: movie & > extra material). > > On the blog the pieces are a part of a network. The pieces don't live on > their own, but largely in their connections with other pieces. You can > read a piece and go further into the network by following connections from > that piece to the next creating your own little 'path' through the > blogosphere. This is less apparent in videoblogs than in blogs partly > because links in video are harder to do, partly because videobloggers > don't link as much (they are linking a whole lot more than they used to!). > It is a very different reading situation, and the meaning created if very > different from that of the video on-demand system. > > Add the fact that conversational interactivity is integrated into the > blogs and the whole thing blows up in your face. Now you are a participant > on equal terms with anyone else. You can recontexualise any other piece by > creating your own piece and making a connection between the two. > > And then Michael describes his own setup: > > > Actually... I've found that playing back video blogs on the TV can be > > quite > > the two way experience. Now, I'm using my iPod, BUT I suppose a Tivo > > might > > work just as well. What makes it work is having a parrellel queue... a > > landing page where by you can follow along as you wish. Also a remote for > > your ipod or tivo comes in handy, of course for skipping, pausing, > > restarting or rewinding. Here's an example workflow we set up with > > mefeedia... First mefeedia automatically creates for you a web based > > browseable queue as it has from the start... but now it also provides for > > you a single personal RSS feed that directly parrallels that queue. The > > RSS > > feed hence goes to your Fireant, iTunes/ipod or perhaps in the future > > tivo > > or Akimbo as they start to better support vlogs... Basically you can > > instantly pull up your watch page on your laptop and jump to any post > > your > > watching on TV. > [SNIP a bunch - you know how it is, Michael :o)] > > What you're describing here is not a video podcasting system (not how I > describe video podcasting above). It behaves more like a blog-system than > a video on-demand system. Like setting up a second monitor on your > computer. > You are one-step removed from the blog in much the same way that you are > one-step removed from a blog entry when you read blogs through a feed > reader. The big difference being that you loose anything *not* in the > video file itself such as additional text with links and explanations. > That's a big drawback in my book, but if that's how you watch, that's how > you watch. It's sort of a mix between the blog and the video on-demand > system where you get the disconnect from the on-demand system while > retaining the potential of the blog's activity (the potential, it's not > actually there while you watch). > > What I don't get is why you just don't watch the video in a seperate > window on the computer? >
The factor of compelling is larger and different on a large monitor or screen at a distance. This allows an immersion and presence for the media piece not presently available on computer screens. What is missing is a synchronization between such devices. -- Enric -======- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media > - Andreas > -- > <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ > > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
