I don't know if DiVA involves quality loss.  I use it to get small
sized files up to TV resolution because I put my stuff on TV as well
as on the internet.  It looks good, and the files get much much
bigger.  So, I assume I'm doing the oposite of compressing (expanding?).

You did remind me that on the archive.org FAQs it does mention that
you can use Cleaner to do the conversion work to.  I don't own Cleaner
so I didn't pursue that.  

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rob,
> 
> Someone told me about bbDEMUX the other day (perhaps you) and I used
it to
> separate the MPEG2 file.  I just looked into DiVA, and I see that
tool is a
> transcoder; doesn't that mean I will simply be compressing the file
again
> (albeit into another file type)?  I'd rather not lose any more
quality than
> has already been lost in compressing to MPEG2 in the first place. 
Please
> let me know if I'm wrong about this.
> 
> What I've discovered in the past couple of days: I *may* be able to
convert
> the MPEG2 file to DV using a tool called MPEG Streamclip, but I'd
still need
> to purchase Apple's Quicktime MPEG2 thing to do so.  That's another $20;
> perhaps there's another (less expensive) way?
> 
> Harold
> 
> On 1/1/06, Rob Parrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Ok here we go.
> >
> > All the software I mention you can find via Google, and they are all
> > shareware or free.
> >
> > You download the MPEG2
> >
> > Then you use bbDEMUX to demux it.  I'm not an expert on this, but
> > demux means you are separating out the video and audio portions of the
> > file.
> >
> > You take the video portion to DiVA and you convert the file to full
> > 720x480, 30 fps.
> >
> > Then you use MAD Play to convert the audio to an AIFF.
> >
> > You can then remarry the video and the audio in Final Cut or whatever
> > you use to edit.
> >
> > I'm doing this from memory, but I think its all right.  Feel free to
> > e-mail off list if you run into problems.
> >
> > Rob
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Rob,
> > >
> > > Ultimately, I will be compressing for the 'net, but I like to
begin all
> > > projects with the best possible quality to edit from.  Would you
mind
> > > explaining how to use the MPEG2 file?  I'm currently on a Mac,
> > though I do
> > > have part-time access to a PC.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > > On 12/31/05, Rob Parrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've found a Public Domain video on the Internet Archive
> > > > (archive.org) that
> > > > > I want to sample from:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.archive.org/details/Medicusc1939_3
> > > > >
> > > > > The video is available in several formats, and I want to use the
> > best
> > > > > available quality video to begin editing/sampling from.  Which
> > of the
> > > > > available formats is the best?  Here's what's available:
> > > > >
> > > > > 64Kb MPEG4
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3_64kb.mp4>
> > > > (20
> > > > > MB)
> > > > > 256Kb MPEG4
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3_256kb.mp4
> > > > >(47
> > > > > MB)
> > > > > Cinepack
> > > >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3.avi>(58
> > > > > MB)
> > > > > MPEG1
> > > >
> >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3.mpg>(191
> > > > > MB)
> > > > > MPEG4
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3_edit.mp4
> > > > >(209
> > > > > MB)
> > > > > MPEG2
> > > >
> >
<http://www.archive.org/download/Medicusc1939_3/Medicusc1939_3.mpeg>(507
> > > > > MB)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for guiding fledging videoblogger,
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold J. Johnson
> > > > > http://podcasterherald.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well Harold, you ask a complicated question.  If you're just
going to
> > > > compress for the web, I don't know the best answer.  However,
if you
> > > > want to have a 720x480, 30fps version, then MPEG2 is the way
to go.
> > > > The conversion process is a bit time consuming, but you end up
with a
> > > > very good looking movie.  It can be done with freeware.  Let
me know
> > > > if that is is what you want and I'll tell you how to do it.
> > > >
> > > > Rob
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