> > On Jan 3, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: > > You export an FLV to use this plugin. > They recommend a free SWF video controller that dynamically loads the > FLV (this is the same SWF controller that used to be used by > YouTube... they've changed it since then). This is also the same > technique we use to play FLV inside FireAnt by the way... we use a SWF > controller that dynamically loads FLV content.
Yeah that's the flv controller to which I was referring... very nice. I didn't know you used that IN FireANT... very cool... thanks for the info btw... I'll have to use more Flash stuff in FireANT. > > You can export FLV from Quicktime Pro (or iMovie/Final Cut) as long as > you have the Quicktime FLV export component that comes with Flash MX > 2004 Professional (which I got from my previous job a while back). So Flash MX comes with a "quicktime component" that does in the Quicktime components folder I assume... I'll have to reinstall Flash MX and check it out... sounds very useful. -Mike > -Josh > > > On 1/2/06, Michael Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Dec 23, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: >>> >>> I still think this FLV plugin for wordpress is nice: >>> < http://roel.meurders.nl/wordpress-plugins/wp-flv-video-player- >>> plugin/ > >>> >>> Haven't noticed anyone using it, though I've posted here about it a >>> few times. I still suggest providing an alternative video format for >>> syndication though. I'd be happier with FLV if it was easier to deal >>> with that way. We're stil working on FLV playback for Windows >>> FireAnt. >>> But I don't often see it syndicated probably because of the issues I >>> shared in a previous post. >>> >> That's very cool for web UI as long as, as you say an alternate >> donnloadable format is used. I doubt I'll ever use it though. I >> didn't see anything about codec... so I assume you just have to >> export your video as an FLV or SWF and the codec doesn't matter so >> long as it's a standard macromedia one... but I assume Sorensen (sp?) >> is best... Does anyone know if QT or any editing software besides >> macromedia will export this. >> >> Oh, btw, on the flash player page it says YouTube uses the player >> though not the wordpress plugin I'm sure. >> >> -Mike >> mmeiser.com/blog and evilvlog.com >> >>> -Josh >>> >>> >>> On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> yep.. google video is not currently intended for true >>>> videobloggers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/23/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >>>>> no offense taken ;-) now i'll read your latest brain dump. >>>>> >>>>> note: i dont like google video. >>>>> note: i still see the potential of flv in our space. >>>>> note: i would never encourage any vlogger to only use flv/swf... >>>>> thats very poor decision. wont reiterate my past babble >>>>> though ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/23/05, Michael Meiser < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> No offense Sull, but enclosing FLV is a pipe dream... it's a web >>>>>> based playback object only... in so far as people DON'T have >>>>>> optional donloadable/ portable/ OPEN / enclosable formats also >>>>>> available it won't go anywhere. I LOVE the fact FireANT mac >>>>>> supports it, I wish everyone did... I'd love to revlog some of >>>>>> my favorite flash... but Fireant mac... that's IT. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> AND that's just for starters... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The format is CLOSED, CLOSED, CLOSED... there is no remixing, >>>>>> little to no opportunity to format shift... no way to even >>>>>> ensure the FLV is downloadable, copyable or shareable without >>>>>> screwing around with each file every time. And no I don't >>>>>> consider giving someone a url to a page sharing. Sharing >>>>>> involves a taking into posession... and you can't dowload or >>>>>> copy 50% of all flash media.. and furthermore there's no telling >>>>>> what you can download and copy unless you know what you're doing >>>>>> and try it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And yes, I'm specifically talking about google video. It's a >>>>>> trap... a dead end.... mark my words no future will come of >>>>>> google video in it's current state, not without a 180 change in >>>>>> direction. It's a toy.... it has no outward looking search... >>>>>> and nothing else can search it. It's a walled garden... a >>>>>> darknet that just happens to have be "pretty"... it has NO >>>>>> interoperability with any other service whatsoever... not yahoo >>>>>> video search or infoseek... no blogging or video podcasting... >>>>>> no webjay... no NOTHING. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Untill they provide media permalinks to non-locked down media / >>>>>> portable / dowloadable / encloseable media... and untill they >>>>>> roll out with a tool that searches video on the other 99.999% of >>>>>> the web it's a freaking test tube toy and I don't even care. >>>>>> It's relevance is BUNK! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean where would google's legendary web page search be today >>>>>> if they'd say, heh! we're offering web hosting and our search is >>>>>> going to work for the pages we host? Plus noone else can search >>>>>> our web pages! We're going to rock the world! With WHAT I'd >>>>>> say... the search has no value when it doesn't search the other >>>>>> 99.999% of the web and the hosting doesn't work when anything >>>>>> uploaded is completely trapped in their system and not >>>>>> accessible for anything more than looking pretty... do not be >>>>>> confused by the slick little flash interface. They're doing what >>>>>> for the search of video I ask! NOTHING! Absolutely NOTHING! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Google video is no search solution... search solutions are >>>>>> what google offers... IT'S their CORE SERVICE... untill google >>>>>> search becomes a true search solution and you can find videos on >>>>>> the whole of the web it's nothing but a malformed test tube >>>>>> baby. It's potential to solve any of the larger issues of >>>>>> finding videos is MUTE. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) ...and as far as hosting... like I said... anyone is >>>>>> better... why bother uploading your videos when you can't even >>>>>> download them? Forget the FLV issue... these are YOUR videos... >>>>>> how are you going to share these videos... bookmark them with >>>>>> delicious and go to them one by one!? Email around urls! Heh >>>>>> this isn't spam I swear it... check out my video! Great, >>>>>> awesome for you. How am I going to comment on these videos... >>>>>> how am I going to quote them... "you know about half way in when >>>>>> you do that one thing"... great! Can you put them on your blog >>>>>> and make ad revene from them? WHAT IF ANYTHING CAN YOU DO WITH >>>>>> THEM? ... oh... you can LOOK at them... oh so pretty in their >>>>>> impenatrable glass boxes... completely inaccessible for anything >>>>>> other than looking at... heh... you can always screen snap >>>>>> them! Now that's all we're doing here in the vlog world, >>>>>> right... it's just stuff to "look at" that's all, right? It's >>>>>> not anything more than just looking, right? I create stuff for >>>>>> people to look at... heh... look at that... look at this.. I >>>>>> looked at that... did you look at that? It's right there on >>>>>> google video for you to look at. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> These google videos fundamentally locked down to google's >>>>>> pages... think of them as googles whores... it makes about as >>>>>> much sense as the Music industry buying into Apple's DRM and >>>>>> then bitching, why the heck does this only work with the ipod!? >>>>>> Why should apple have a monopoly? Why... because you wanted it >>>>>> non-interroperable you fucks and that's what you got! Wake up >>>>>> and smell the coffee. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Closed platforms are BUNK ... they have no future... they're >>>>>> fundamentally inaccessible, have limited usability, no >>>>>> findability or searchability outside of that which is provided, >>>>>> and no flexibility... you get the damn play button and the >>>>>> slide bar because that's what google said you could have >>>>>> bitch ... want a timestamp... screw you... no flash plugin.. >>>>>> screw you... want it on your ipod...screw you... want to put it >>>>>> in a playlist with your other home movies... screw you... want >>>>>> to project it on a damn wall.. screw you... want to quote >>>>>> it.. .screw you... play it at your wedding, barmitzfa, family >>>>>> reunion... just as long as you don't mind playing it in the >>>>>> google web page and have a highspeed connection! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ARE YOU ALL FOLLOWING ME? There's this thing... it's called >>>>>> fair use... it's a suggestion that perhaps the creator might not >>>>>> have an idea of every intended use for media in the world... >>>>>> there's this thing called digital rights management... and don't >>>>>> tell me google isn't using digital rights management... you're >>>>>> rights to use that content are completley and totally "managed". >>>>>> a duck is a duck no matter what you call it. ANyway digital >>>>>> management assumes that every concieved usage for content is >>>>>> known... google assumes they know the one possible concieved >>>>>> usage of a video... and that's all you'll ever need people... if >>>>>> you agree... good for you... you know it's your choice... yeah, >>>>>> I'm being condesending here, glad you noticed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Google have decided you WILL watch the file in their web page in >>>>>> a browser with flash and that's IT PERIOD. Argue with that.. and >>>>>> argue that none of the other infinite possibilities matter... do >>>>>> it... I'm egging anyone on... I'm picking a fight... something >>>>>> I never do... but I won't hesitate to pick a fight on this... >>>>>> google video is a fucking TRAP! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So, why bother with a born loser... And I do mean born loser... >>>>>> still born, whatever you want to call it... unless google >>>>>> suddently does a 180 one day out of the blue and says we bless >>>>>> they merry gentleman with media permalinks... to direct >>>>>> downloadable files... and stops limiting their search to only >>>>>> videos people have uploaded to them I could care less about >>>>>> their service... I'm going to go use an OPEN hosting service >>>>>> like blip or archive.org... something ACCESSIBLE... and a search >>>>>> tool like yahoo that allows me to find things on the other >>>>>> 99.999% of the web. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Google video is just another tyrant in a long line of tyrants... >>>>>> I can't understand why anyone would bother? All hail the tyrant >>>>>> is dead! All hail the new tyrant! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I'm picking a fight on this one, I don't normally speak >>>>>> quite this boldly in comdemnation but, fuck google video. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> GOOGLE VIDEO IS A MEDIA TRAP! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Got that! Ok... I saved the best for last... GOOGLE VIDEO >>>>>> DOESN'T WORK FOR VLOGGERS AT ALL!!! What need more I say. >>>>>> Argue with that! Enclose that! Stick that in your itunes, >>>>>> fireant, DTV, iPod, PSP... stick it in your web page... YOU >>>>>> CAN'T! Use google to find the videos on your blog, you're >>>>>> friends vlog... heh where's my videos in google... heh where's >>>>>> rocketbooms! Andrew, sorry to use you as an example but you >>>>>> started this. Are you going to upload all your rocketboom videos >>>>>> to google so they'll appear in google's search engine... what >>>>>> kind of revenue opportunities do you think you'll make from that >>>>>> one link google blesses your homepage with? I laught... the >>>>>> idea of google's utility is absurd... Google does not include >>>>>> vlogs in it's search... google does not allow it's videos to be >>>>>> vlogged! What need more be said! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How did I allowed myself to get sucked into this pointless >>>>>> discussion anyway... Google video sucks... end of story... I >>>>>> think I've made my point... next question please. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote: >>>>>> flash video has grown on me. >>>>>> i used to spit on it in relation to videoblogging/vodcasting. >>>>>> the one gripe that still prevails is that you cant remix it.... >>>>>> so it excudes that part of this culture. which sucks bad. you >>>>>> could transcode flv to mp4 of course, but its another step and >>>>>> potential lossy issues. >>>>>> >>>>>> but, flv has a very important role that should not be ignored by >>>>>> anyone... businesses focus on it for good reason. >>>>>> you may not be able to remix it easily, but you can share >>>>>> it...and everyone can play it online and soon offline playback >>>>>> will be mor ecommon too. >>>>>> >>>>>> and as soon as XSPF video player is ready, that will be huge. >>>>>> even without XSPF, there are other xml playlist formats that flv >>>>>> players use. >>>>>> playlists, in my opinion, are a huge part of our culture. >>>>>> revlogs are playlists. metafeeds are playlists etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> even fireant and others will eventually have proper support for >>>>>> flv playback if not already. >>>>>> imagine if flv played on the video iPod. it could if *they* >>>>>> chose to allow it. >>>>>> maybe macromedia or some other company will one day come out >>>>>> with a device that does? imagine that. some cell phones >>>>>> already do, right? >>>>>> >>>>>> sull >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/23/05, Jay dedman < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >>>>>>>> I was never meaning to suggest Flash is the way to go for most >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> and also I didn't even expect hotlinking, etc into one's >>>>>>>> website or >>>>>>>> aggregator. I wasn't suggesting anyone on this list drop >>>>>>>> anything for >>>>>>>> Google. >>>>>>>> I really only just brought it up as a stepping stone for >>>>>>>> newbees or >>>>>>>> people who would want to do video without a committed life of >>>>>>>> videoblogging. >>>>>>>> I think its a good and easy way to get your videos online if >>>>>>>> you are >>>>>>>> not a hard core videoblogger. I think its much easier than any >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> solution, its dependable and fast and it seems like its a nice >>>>>>>> sandbox for people who would like to experiment with the >>>>>>>> idea of >>>>>>>> having video that they make online. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> agreed. >>>>>>> maybe gogle might connect google video with blogger one day. >>>>>>> all the pieces are there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i was just bringing up the flash discussion...becasue i see >>>>>>> that its >>>>>>> becoming very popular in some circles. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Adventures in Videoblogging >>>>>>> <URL: http://www.momentshowing.net> >>>>>>> < http://feeds.feedburner.com/Momentshowing> >>>>>>> <http://getFireAnt.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo! 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