Sorry I stopped participating in this discussion, Ive not had much
time in recent weeks. 

You have managed to get quite good qualiy from Real at a lower bitrate
than many videobloggers use, so I can see why you like the format. Yes
it probably would make sense to offer mpeg4 as well, to cater for the
emerging ipod etc markets, and people who dont like real for whatever
reason.

mp4 does not have to be 'download for later play' only, it can also be
encoded to 'progressive download' so that it gives a good experience
for people watching in a browser without waiting. But real already
does that for you, so yes its the 'video podcasting, download to watch
later on computer or portable device or tv' using RSS feeds and stuff
that you want to look at.

Ive forgotten how comprehensively your questions were already
answered, but questions about creating the mpeg4,hosting it, and
getting an itunes compatible feed come up all the time. If your
content is stuff that people have to pay for tog et, then this will
create an additional issues or 2 that isnt discussed here that often.
It may be easier to start off without any sort of feed, and just offer
the mp4's as an additional downloadable format via website links for
members to start with.

Thanks for your kind words in another thread about by rant about the
BBC article on Digital Citizens. Unfortunately I only made 4 test
videos last year, I am a failed videoblogger, hoping to do more in
2006 but I dont know if it will actually happen, I get distracted by
nerdy things. 

Steve of Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Michael Marzio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks joly.  I'm really happy I joined this Ygroup. You confirmed
my vague 
> impression that I have to offer mp4 (in addition to my current embedded 
> media), and that the mp4 has to be "downloaded for later play" as
you say, 
> which I think implies some kind of rss-for-video technology which I
know 
> nothing about at the moment. So I'm looking at another learning
curve and 
> don't even know what question to ask yet.
> 
> When I go to http://feeds.feedburner.com/punkcastpodcast which you 
> mentioned, I see a page of rss code with an error message at the bottom 
> which says
> "The XML  page can not be displayed" and I don't even know if this
is what 
> I'm supposed to looking at or not. If I asked a question it would be
really 
> dumb and basic, like "Where do I start to get an RSS feed for my own
MP4 
> video?" Or "Can Bittorent be used as a free solution to 'preload'
video for 
> the audience?"
> 
> Mike Marzio
> www.realenglish.tm.fr
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Message: 8
>    Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:06:56 -0500
>    From: WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Re: The Best Codec
> 
> I've actually used pretty much the same spec of real for
> the last 5 years on punkcast, for much the same reasons that
> you mention. I give the link for the BBC download page, which
> gives a pretty junk-free free install.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audiohelp_install.shtml
> 
> I'm not interested in embedded video, however, I'm looking for the
> lean-back experience, for streaming or download.
> 
> Particularly, for non qt-pro owning i-mac users, real was the
> most practical free way of giving them full screen video bar M$,
> I have experienced problems over the years playing back QT on
> weaker PC's. - stuttering etc,
> 
> The increasing use of broadband and introduction of the VLC player
> has changed things in recent times, making mpg or DIVX delivered via
> bittorrent a high-quality alternative.
> 
> The advent of the video iPod, and the podcasting method, has created
> a new standard, which is mp4 running around 600kbps, downloaded for
> later play. Which codec to use is a matter of choice. I've seen very
good
> results using Xvid but I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] w/AAC at 128kbps audio.
> 
> Your question of 'Best Codec' really should be qualified with a purpose,
> - if you've been following the discussion here on google video, you'll
> see that the general consensus is that for embedded streaming it's
> very possibly flv in flash, but that's not much good for offline play.
> 
> I'd suggest you do, as I do, for continuity and backwards compatibility,
> continue to offer real on your site, and offer a podcast of higher
quality 
> mp4
> for those that are up to speed.
> 
> A feedburner page offers an easy link to such content, see
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/punkcastpodcast
> 
> joly
> 
> 
> >**Encoding in Real Producer (after capture and editing in Raw Intel
Indeo):
> >Total Video+Audio Bit Rate: 225 Kbps
> >Size: 320x240
> >Frame Rate: 25 fps (I live in France and shoot in PAL when I'm in the 
> >States)
> >Video Bit Rate only: 193 Kbps
> >Audio Bit Rate only: 32 Kbps, mono, at 22 Mhz
> >
> >Mike Marzio
>






 
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