Obviously I'm out of town when this thread hits... Yes, I entirely agree with where this ended up. Flash is not an end-all-be-all -- there is *no* end-all-be-all.
And I agree, innovation in this area is not done, it's barely started. Needless to say, we've got cool stuff on the go. =) The mantra we keep slamming -- "*do* something with video" -- is more than a hypeline, I live/breathe/sleep that every day (more than I care to actually admit); that being said, not every method is for everyone. Lots of folks are format zealots, and I totally appreciate that. This is why I usually do my talkbacks on most threads directly to folks.. I don't want to feel like I'm cramming some company line (format, the "right way" etc) down anyone's throat. Folks SHOULD and ARE trying different methods, services, formats, etc out, and I am totally supportive of other folks in the space who provide different, meaningful and valuable tools to the community... as I've said a few times, I personally (heart) blip, vlogdir, fireant, mefeedia and ourmedia/IA, and would love to work more with these folks. Mike Lanza wrote: >For those who don't have the time or inclination to dive into ActionScript, >the value of >Flash video is represented by the sites that use it. As I've said before, >there is a growing >number of sites using it, but these sites have only shown the tip of the >iceberg of what can >be done with ActionScript and Flash video. Off the top of my head, the only >one that has >done anything interesting at all is vSocial, and that's not an awful lot. > >So, for now, Flash video seems like it's gaining market share without >delivering any >benefits over what it's replacing. > >Stay tuned. There's sooo much that Flash can do for video that hasn't been >shown yet. >Specifically, I'm talking about rich interactive applications where "using" >video isn't a >simple matter of pressing play and kicking back. > >--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I agree with this. >>In fact I've posted a very elegant WordPress FLV plugin here several times. >>I think that is a great option for videobloggers. But Flash is not the be >>all and end all. Other format options for download/syndication are very >>important. >> >>-Josh >> >> >>On 1/10/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>but you can transcode other formats to flv. >>>and you can use a flash wrapper/player which can provide some >>>interactivity being discussed here. these are free or cheap. just need a >>>server to upload it to so it can be used on the web. you dont have to buy >>>or use expensive Flash MX 2004 Professional. >>> >>>the important point, to reiterate here.... is NOT to ONLY use flash. But >>>DONT avoid it when you can feasibly incorporate it into your projects. DO >>>provide mp4 etc... >>> >>>balance.... experiment.... dont be fooled by partial truths which can end >>>up limiting your creativity and use of available technologies. >>> >>>sull >>> >>>On 1/10/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Flash is used by service providers... "upload your video here" types >>>>of services. >>>>This is fine, but for an independent who wants to post their own video >>>>on the web, dealing with Flash is still for the most part too >>>>expensive and too complicated. Flash MX 2004 Professional is not a >>>>cheap program. Understanding actionscipt is not easy. Understanding >>>>the intricacies of Flash and how to make it work for both playback and >>>>syndication is not easy. >>>> >>>>I think Flash is great on the web. But it is not yet easy enough for >>>>an individual, low budget, one-person production unit without relying >>>>on a third party service. >>>></rant> >>>> >>>>-Josh >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yahoo! 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