Re: [videoblogging] Re: PORN, yes, I said it PORN.

Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:29:48 -0800

On 1/12/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
what does this mean exactly?

Categories based on tags maybe?

This means something like groups of tags in categories, like filtering on tags, or something...but I've thought about it since it that's just dumb, too cumbersome.

something i have going on vlogdir is ability for members to suggest a category.
it goes into a queue and i get an email alert.  mostly they are approved... I'm kind of lazy about it too.
sometimes i get very redundant or non-sensible submissions.

i have a trigger that can allow non-members to suggest categories and also have them appear immediately without approval.
i've thought about allowing it this way.... what do you  all think?  open category submissions?  bad or good?

Could items be in more than one category?  Might that lead to messy data?

sull


On 1/10/06, Devlon < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Categories based on tags maybe?

On 1/10/06, Michael Sullivan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
categories... a full circle.
back in the day.... most were like 'categories?  that's out.  Now it's all about tags!"
My response was... 'nope, its about categories AND tags'.



On 1/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/10/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would say that you should consult with the porn site owners and
get their input. I wouldn't think that they would want their stuff
accessed by kids any more than you do.

I think Richards biggest issue seemed to be that MeFeedia seemed to
arbitrarily pick his feed out for labeling without consulting with
him first. A little communication can go a long way. He's a long
time member of this community and has contributed a lot to it.

Agreed, the lack of dialog was a poor choice on our part.  Guilty. 

I think on solution to the problem could be just smarter directory
structure (not easy I know) that makes sure that people see what
they want to see without censoring the content producers or creating
adult ghetto categories.

Categories seem to be the smart way to go about it.  Creating  'kid friendly' categories and 'not safe for work' categories, etc.

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the first porn sites were added to vlogdir.com last week.
> that prompted me to add an Adult Content category.
>
> i can add a custom wrapper on that category to do a number of
things... such
> as warnings, agreements and so-called age check, access
restriction until a
> request is made to gain access, or do nothing (current status).
>
> i just have not made a final decision yet.  i think it may depend
on the
> type of porn site... the ones added to vlogdir.com were typical
porn sites
> with a front being a videoblog... as a teaser... which lead you
into joining
> as a member etc....
> other sites may just be adult content, some porny stuff, but not
that
> typical porn network concept.
>
> too busy to put effort into any one approach here... but soon i
will make
> some sort of adjustment WITHOUT censoring honest works.
> this may include 'the video stores back porn room' approach....
getting in
> may require a request to adjust member permissions.
>
> i know sites like the one added to vlogdir dont give a shit about
> vlogging... there just trying to make money.  i dont feel much
concern for
> them...
> but stuff like madge puts out... that HAS a place here!
>
> sull
>
> On 1/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Let's talk.
> >
> > It's a hot topic right now since our (Mefeedia) site chose one
method
> > to make the site 'safe for work' etc.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I want to talk as an individual, not as someone
affiliated
> > with Mefeedia.  That being said...
> >
> > There is a post on the Mefeedia blog that pointed out how
content that
> > might not be safe for work is handled.  The author of the post
picked
> > the first feed that they came across, it was never meant to
single out
> > anyone.  Apologies for singling out anyone that was not the
intent at
> > all.
> >
> > I've spent the morning listening to Richard's podcast.  And he's
> > asking questions...I have some answers, as an individual, not as
a
> > spokesperson of mefeedia.
> >
> > Why do we need do cover up images like a vagina smoking a
cigarette
> > (for example)?  Personally, I know that kids will find porn
online,
> > that's not why I feel some images need to be categorized
or 'covered
> > up'.  I feel it is important for browsing at work or something
like
> > that, maybe over at my parent's places, etc.  So here I am
browsing
> > around and I get explicit images on the screen, my boss comes in
my
> > office and thinks I am browsing porn.
> >
> > I have no problem with porn, trust me...you should see my
> > collection...It has nothing to do with monetization, etc.  It's
about
> > having a site that everyone can use anywhere, in a school, in a
> > library, etc.
> >
> > Freedom of speech is thrown around right and left, but if a
review of
> > someone's feed isn't appreciated, then it's 'a bad' review, or
> > un-fair.  How does that work?
> >
> > I have questions.  How do the other sites handle content?  How
do we
> > as a community make sites that everyone, anyone can watch
anywhere?
> >
> > There are several feeds that have been flagged as potential adult
> > content, not just the one, there are 25 of them.  But I agree
that
> > there should be some dialog with the producers of the feeds
before
> > they get flagged, that's where Mefeedia did go wrong, agreed. 
The
> > process is being refined.  It's not the content of the video
that I
> > feel needs to be indentified, it's the thumbnails.
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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