> > On Jan 16, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: > >> interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is >> downloading management which is most valuable if the video is >> larger (download overnight or while doing other things). >> if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy >> watching videos on the web, no? > > No. I am a fan of small chunks... but lots of them from lots of > different places and the ability to easily switch between them and > manipulate them, etc. Viewing video on the web never seems to allow me > to interact this way. > > -Josh
Ultimately... and we talked about this in the way back at the beginning of the mRSS (aka. media RSS) initiative... I'd love to see content strung together in RSS so it would play in an order... so it didn't need to be compiled together into one video... so you could have to minutes of video A... and then do a personal seguay with another video clip to introduce the third clip... the probelem is in preserving the integrity of that stream. Lucas Gonze promoted his playlist fromat XSPF or whatever it's called... and that works well for mp3's but there's still a huge problem with two factors. a) XSPF is not supported for aggregation... I know of no way to attach it or enclose it with all the videos it references in RSS so they can all be downloaded and the playlist reconstructed on the client side. b) The XSPF format is best with mp3 because there are just tooo many audio formats... there's just no way to 1) stream video as consistently as mp3 from different sources... 2) play back videos in different formats consistently in any playback tool. Essentually there needs to be a better open markup, a container, for maintaing the integrity and the relationship of videos over aggregation and that tools like fireant that support this container and all the video formats it might contain. Essentially apple's SMIL format is one such container... but it has it has many of the same faults as XSPF. BTW, correct me if I'm misrepresenting the XSPF playlist format, I'm no expert on it. -Mike > > On 1/16/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly >>> anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. >> >> >> interesting, since apps like fireANT's main benefit is >> downloading management which is most valuable if the video is >> larger (download overnight or while doing other things). >> if you are a fan of smaller chunks, then you could prob be happy >> watching videos on the web, no? >> >> if your point is about attention span... ok. but it seems that >> adam made the point that this content will continue to be grabbed >> by a trusted audience who would love nothing more than content to >> fill their commute. >> >> short, long... whatever. its not even worth debating since the >> wide audience consists of many different preferences. why ask why >> and all that. >> >> sull >> >> >> On 1/16/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> For context, and ease of use for the viewer. >>> >>> But I don't know what's included in the 15 minutes and can't choose >>> whether or not I want to download it or view it in that order.... >>> I am >>> a fan of smaller chunks. >>> >>>> if there is 15 minutes of stuff from a site every day, why would >>>> I want to have to navigate to the menu each time I want to watch >>>> the next segment? >>> >>> That seems like an iPod issue. I don't have one, but I'm >>> surprised it >>> doesn't skip to the next video track in a playlist? >>> >>>> That said, I do want to figure out QT chapters so they can >>>> easily skip a segment if they wish. Although I'm not so sure it >>>> will function on the iPod. >>> >>> That would be cool if this feature were supported on the iPod. >>> >>>> The idea here is that people who subscribe to The PAN are >>>> trusting us to provide 15 minutes of *Really Good* stuff, so >>>> they won't need them as separate chunks. >>> >>> You should at least provide better text descriptions on the site and >>> in the feed. This will make it easier to trust that you are really >>> providing 15 min. of good stuff. Right now, I have no idea what >>> stuff >>> is there until after I've viewed. Text descriptions are too often >>> overlooked by videobloggers. They are really helpful to the viewer >>> deciding if they want to download and also to search engines to help >>> make your content more findable. >>> >>>> Plus 15 minutes is not that much for most commuters, who are a >>>> good portion of iPod video watchers. If you're watching the PAN >>>> in the morning on your way to work, you can stop it halfway >>>> through when you get to the office, then when you take lunch or >>>> go home at night, restart it right where you left off. >>> >>> I guess that's a matter of opinion. I can't watch 15 min. of hardly >>> anything. I always prefer shorter bits to longer ones. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! 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