Yes iSquint uses a different encoder. ffmpeg, which is I believe what handbrake uses too. There are PC Windows and Linux apps which use such encoders too, most of these softwares are about providing a GUI for one or more opensource encoders, and feeding the right parameters to those encoders. So some PSP encoding apps might be using just the same encoder, ust with different settings.
They were mostly all faster than quicktimes h264 encoding, but in quicktime 7.0.4 apple speeded things up a lot, so they may be slowerthan quicktime under certain conditions now. >From a legal point of view, such programs and encoders ahve probably ignored any patent etc issues, not bothered with mpeg4 or h264 licencing, in theory thats probably not good but in practise nothing much has happened yet as a result. Not 100% sure what you mean by why would quicktime be unable to do this. If you mean why cant quicktime create h264 mp4 that works o ipod now, well it used to work, so the either made error or did it deliberately as discussed earlier. If you mean why would isquint & others use their own encoder rather than apples, well because of either better documentation, performance, quality, speed of encoders, or because the developers arent into quicktime development or other reasons. Steve of Elbows --- In [email protected], Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just tried iSquint - that's a fantastic solution for Mac users. You can > set the bit rate for the video and the audio - fast start works, syncs to > iPod. Fast started in Firefox on my PC. > So, is iSquint doing the encoding without using the Quicktime software > that's built in to the OS? Why would Quicktime be unable to do this? > -Verdi > > > On 2/11/06, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No Im not saying things are quite that bad/changed that much, > > thankfully. The implication of what youve found with handbrake is that > > theyve changed which type will play on the ipod, either by doing > > something to itunes of ipod firmware. > > > > But I just encoded some H264 using iSquint 1.2, and it still copies > > onto the ipod via itunes ok, so I doubt theyve goe down that path, too > > much of a auser backlash. > > > > Based on your earlier post and my test, I assumed theyve changed > > something in the way quicktime 704 encodes baseline h264 in mpeg4 > > export mode, as opposed to changeing itunes or ipod compatibility > > detection. So this means you can only make ipod compatible h264 using > > quicktime 7.0.4 if you use export to ipod option. But you can still > > use non-quicktime h264 encoders to make baseline h264 that plays on ipod. > > > > This new complication is still emerging, I may be wrong about > > something above, need more testing. Are you sure there isnt something > > else in your handbrake encoding process that has caused you to end up > > with a file that doesnt work? > > > > On the good news front, I see iSquint 1.2 creates fast-start mp4's :) > > > > Steve of Elbows > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Verdi <michael@> wrote: > > > > > > I think you might be right about Apple doing it on purpose. I just > > made a > > > DVD of some video that I'd been working with and used Handbrake to > > rip it to > > > mp4 using H.264 as the codec and it won't transfer to my iPod. This > > used to > > > work. > > > Very disappointing. > > > -Verdi > > > > > > On 2/11/06, Steve Watkins <steve@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh dear, I think you are right. I just had a few goes and it didnt > > > > work. It works ok if you dont use h264. > > > > > > > > I dunno if its an Apple mistake or if there is any wayround this > > > > problem. I have a suspicion Apple may have done it deliberately, to > > > > maek sure people use the ipod export option, and thus propagate that > > > > darn .m4v extension. Why do they always seem to take something away > > > > when they give us something new? I like the ipod conversion built into > > > > itunes but arghghg @ apple. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Me: http://michaelverdi.com > > > R&D: http://evilvlog.com > > > Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org > > > Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Me: http://michaelverdi.com > R&D: http://evilvlog.com > Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org > Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
