i agree with josh except for this statement:

If I have to come to your website to watch it, then it ain't really distributing.

depends how you look at 'distributing content'.  i tend to look at it from a more loose and general side.  web publishing and blogging are a form of content distribution.  it may not be sending the content direct to an individual (email, rss reader, p2p client, client/server app etc) but its out there and has been distributed to the web... where anyone can consume it. 

music labels distribute music on CD and are offered for purchase at stores.  you have to go to the store to get it.  films are distributed on film and dvd etc... you have to go to a theatre or to a store to consume the content. 

'distribution' doesnt strictly mean direct-to-consumer-on-demand. 

and 'experience' doesnt necessarily degrade if the consumption is done via the web. 
i think you may be underestimating the big picture of networked media. 
it's not all about aggregation.

sull


On 2/14/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now to argue my point from the other side... This may be a great
service for some people. The basic step of putting video on a website
can be solved in a number of ways. This may be a nice widget for doing
just that.

But your question was if this service had any value to videobloggers.
To that question, my answer is no. It has little if any relationship
to videoblogging other than it being a way to embed a clip on my blog
sidebar... that's about it. But as for distrbution of media, I don't
really see it there. If I have to come to your website to watch it,
then it ain't really distributing.

-Josh


On 2/14/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have any use for services that take freedom away from the creator.
> If I put my video in their service, can I get it back? They turn it
> into Flash, where does my original go? Can I really distribute it
> using the shared standards of the blogosphere like RSS.
>
> Put it this way, why don't I post every text blog entry as a read-only
> PDF *and* disallow anyone to download that document. That doesn't
> really help people distribute media.
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On 2/14/06, robert a/k/a r < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > josh -- yeah, the widget is cool.
> >
> > and they host video, audio and stills (i.e. services for distributing
> > media).
> >
> > is your problem with it the fact it's video is flash flv or arfe you
> > unsupportive for another reason?
> >
> >
> > --
> > cheers
> > r
> >
> > Deconstructing the status quo, collaboratively
> >
> > my vlog: http://r.24x7.com
> > good deal : http://foo.24x7.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2006, at 2:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:
> >
> > >  I don't see how this is helpful to videoblogging.
> > > Its a nice widget that i can stick on a webpage... seems more useful
> > > to MySpace, Ebay Auctions, Craigslist pages... stuff like that, but
> > > has little to do with distribution of media and the supporting the
> > > shared standards of the blogosphere.
> > >
> > > -josh
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/13/06, Ted Tagami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 2/13/06, robert a/k/a r < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hey
> > >> all
> > >>>
> > >>>  Just came across a new service called stickam.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.stickam.com/stickam.jsp
> > >>>
> > >>>  In adition to hosting, they have a live streaming (flash) scheme
> > >>> where
> > >>>  you throw an object in your sidebar and broadcast live.
> > >>>
> > >>>  Is there any value for a vlogger to use their service?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>  --
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> > >>>  r
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