Hey guys, I'm following this thread with a smile on my face, because a lot of what you're talking about is what blip is all about. We actually already submit your video to a bunch of different places (Yahoo Video Search, Mefeedia, the Internet Archive, your own blog, Flickr, del.icio.us) and we'd like to add more.
The only thing keeping us from cross-posting to, say, YouTube, is license restrictions. We're not sure if we can get away with it from a legal perspective. That said, we've been looking into cross-posting to Google Video pretty actively and I think we may move towards that in the next couple weeks. What other services would you like us to auto submit to? Yours, Mike Co-founder, blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "lishisman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Verdi, > Your point about licensing is well taken, however, blip.tv is a > perfect example of a "good target" for a portal. If you have 5 "good > targets" You still have to upload your video 5 times. > Maybe because of license restrictions and policies some video > services will be excluded... The whole issue is simply that I do not > want to have to upload my video more than once to be listed where > the general viewing public will find it... Although, I do use google > video, I am not yet concerned with anyone stealing my content and > monetizing from my stuff. Not that I wont be soon. > > [> 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > helping to > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > world - > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > thing > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > your own > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > TV or Film > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > have to put > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself.] > > I am not buying into anything as of yet, one very distinct > difference between what you pointed out and the > truth, is that by adding your video to portals, you are not > giving up your right to distribute your video yourself, your just > extending your reach. The future for me is that one day UnzappedTV > may indeed be something viewed on a cell phone as a channel or on a > Media Center PC. I would like a service to upload and place my > content in these locations without much effort. Some services > convert this content and distibute it for you... The actual choices > on who to use and which portal will have to be left up to your > discretion, the resposibilty you have as a content provider to not > infringe upon someone elses copyright is still yours... > > I may have different motivations than you, as a matter of I am sure > I do, and that is cool, that is what makes this so great! Thank you > so much for your thoughts... > > As far as your suggestions go... I do all but 1,2,3 but I am working > on it... ;) > > Jason > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <michael@> > wrote: > > > > I understand that people like to put their stuff in places like > YouTube > > because they think they'll get noticed there by the hordes of > people looking > > for the latest cool TV clip. That's fine but personally I have 2 > main > > reasons why I'll never be interested in that. > > 1. Check the terms of use: YouTube, Google Video, DailyMotion for > example > > all require you to license your video to them in such a way that > they can > > commercially exploit it. Why give this to them in exchange for > hosting when > > you host your videos yourself or for free on The Archive and > Blip.tv without > > giving anything away? Also, if you intend to use anyone's creative > commons > > licensed material and then upload it there you may be violating > the terms of > > their licence (this is the case for any non-commercial and/or > share alike > > license). > > > > 2. By buying into the idea that these places are portals you are > helping to > > set up another version of what we already have in the TV and Film > world - > > namely distribution controlled by a few sources. The revolutionary > thing > > about the Internet and videoblogging is that YOU can distribute > your own > > work. You don't have to rely on a middleman. If you want to be on > TV or Film > > you have to play the TV or Film game. If you videoblog you don't > have to put > > up with that shit. You have the power to do it yourself. > > > > Here are my "tips" for building an audience: > > 1. Make great content. > > 2. Make great content. > > 3. Make great content. > > 4. Put your great content in a blog and add descriptions and links > relevant > > to your great content. > > 5. Make sure you have an RSS 2.0 feed with enclosures so people can > > subscribe to your great content. > > 6. Make great content regularly (you don't have to do it everyday > but don't > > dissapear for months at a time). > > 7. Interact with your audience via the comments on your videoblog. > > 8. Watch and comment on stuff you like (they might like your stuff > too). > > > > That's it for now. That should get you started. > > > > -Verdi > > > > On 4/3/06, lishisman <lishisman@> wrote: > > > > > > Greetings... Vlogweek very cool... Our New studio did not get > > > finished over the weekend, and I am bummed, Such is life... > > > > > > Warning - I am not a good writer, when it comes to me putting > > > something on paper, alot of time my thoughts get mangled, I am > much > > > better in person... I think way faster than I type, so I will > try to > > > convey and idea... discussing it here first before acting, and > > > hoping that I can get some constructive, open minded, feedback > from > > > valued members here. > > > > > > I have an Idea... > > > > > > Trying to be a productive member and all, I would like to build > or > > > be part of a new website/program dedicated to video submission. I > > > have *some* capital, resources and input, however I cannot do it > > > alone. > > > > > > It is understood by me that there are already MANY services that > one > > > vlogger can upload a video to and get seen... however, people > like > > > me, who vlog daily could spend a great deal of time, just > uploading > > > to the many services out there... > > > > > > A service needs to be developed that you could upload your daily > > > video to once, and the service would "broadcast" your video the > > > other video services for which do not have RSS feeds, but force > you > > > to upload ... What really gets me about the current group of > > > services for video distribution is that in order to gain the most > > > exposure you need to set up no less than five different user > > > accounts, and upload your video up to at least that many > services, > > > my videos are around 40 mb, can you imagine how long it would > take > > > me to upload to just 5 of them? Plus, compile, shoot, edit, > create > > > webpages, post in a blog, ping the feeds that arent in > feedburner, > > > and post to this board? It is just crazy... > > > > > > Here are some possible solutions... > > > > > > Choice one > > > ALL video upload services allow for linking to source video that > is > > > already hosted somewhere. OR allow RSS linking to source vid. > > > > > > Pros- > > > 1. It would be easier for people like me to have content listed > in > > > many services, quickly. > > > 2. My daily video would only consume 30 mb of webspace TOTAL. > > > 3. Video Services would have more content with less server > overhead. > > > > > > Cons- > > > 1. Video services would not have as much "exclusive" content. > > > 2. Video Services would not be able to control the availability > of a > > > video or the bandwidth that each video's hosting could handle. > > > 3. The abosolute tracking would be sketchy. > > > 4. Those video services that currently CONVERT video formats for > you > > > would be very limited by not having the source file in hand. Like > > > for Mobile phones, ipods, and such. > > > > > > > > > Choice two > > > Have a video broadcast service... this could be a web > application, > > > Or more intriging, it could be a windows application like googles > > > video uploader. > > > You upload to one place... when this happens it is concurrently > > > uploaded to many other places... > > > > > > Pros- > > > 1. Less work for the content provider > > > 2. This could be a paid service... make money$$ > > > 3. Maximum exposure could be obtained with minimal effort > > > 4. Video service would still have the source files. > > > 5. Video services would likely become allies with such service > for > > > the content alone, and would likely allow a service to sign up > new > > > user accounts. > > > 6. In the above scenario this service would become a one stop > shop > > > for new vloggers..."Got a video?, get it out there! > vlogblaster.com > > > sets you up with accounts for the most popular video submission > > > services out there, AND uploads your video for you, Blast your > vlog > > > today!" > > > > > > Cons- > > > 1. A 30mb would eat up a ton of server space on the WEB, in an > > > example a 30 mb file uploaded to > > > 2. The machine running the application, the content providers > > > computer OR the server that the application os run on, would have > > > all it could do for the better part of an hour. OR the Vlogger > > > community could build a SETI type network to handle such tasks. > > > 3. Script would have to written for each video upload service. > > > > > > Personally I see choice two as the only option, I think that it > > > would be reasonable to suggest that 5 services could be > targetted, > > > with more development slated for the future. > > > > > > Now I know for a fact that I currently consume in the range of > 150mb > > > of server space in lala land for just ONE 30mb video. Each and > every > > > day. Because it has to get uploaded to so many places. This > could be > > > bad in the long haul... Liberals against server space... video > > > wasteland... I can see the march on washington now. > > > > > > Google video, akimbo, youtube, stupid videos, cnet, and MANY > more I > > > am sure I a missing some big ones here... your help as to which > five > > > could be targetted would be helpful. > > > > > > I look forward to your thoughts, and suggestions on whether such > a > > > service is feasible, or even if it already exists... > > > > > > Now, I did not sign up as a vlog week 2006 participant, but I do > > > however, do a daily video anyway, I plan to in the spirit of this > > > week do a weekend edition of unzappedtv... you will not however > see > > > me in the shower or bathtub. > > > Our First coorespondant from argentina is on the show today, > with a > > > funny commercial that FORD is running... > > > > > > > > > PEACE OUT! > > > Jason > > > http://www.unzappedtv.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Me: http://michaelverdi.com > > R&D: http://evilvlog.com > > Learn to videoblog: http://freevlog.org > > Learn to videoblog in person: http://node101.org > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
