Charles, I can, personally, completely accept a user not quite understanding the intricacies of Copyright, Creative Commons and Netiquette/Ethics. However, what I cannot understand or accept is a well-funded (with, presuming, a legal team/staff) commercial entity doing the same thing. If this was some podunk website that didn't "get" what this was all about, then sure, no problem. However, the Veoh folks dipped their toe in this community months ago, so they know this place and people exist. To then knowingly go back and allow this to happen... I mean.. c'mon. If 50 rocketboom episodes appeared on vSocial right now, I'd probably be emailing and phoning Andrew right now to find out what was going on. Same with Verdi. Or any of you folks. I would expect the Blip folks, or anyone else who believes in more than just the big buck that's a part of this community, would do exactly the same thing. Nevermind if I actually wrote a system to scrape them. I'm very personally troubled by this whole thing.
BIG FAT DISCLAIMER -- This specific email is my PERSONAL opinion and in no way reflects any company stance of anyone I may work for/with/etc. Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > Hello, > > I know many people probably won't like hearing this, but.... > > I don't know if it is possible to have "people" subscribe to your feed > and not have other site's aggregate and redistribute your feed without > your control. > > (And let me point out that I am NOT trying to justify any of this. > I'm just trying to explain current attitudes with members of Internet > society.) > > To many many many people, if you create an RSS or Atom people, then > you are implicitly giving people permission to do all sort of things > with it. It's the way things have been for a very very long time. > And this "permission" included aggregating and redistributing. (And I > know many people don't like this. But I'm NOT trying to justify > this. I'm only trying to explain the attitude of current Internet > society.) > > This is akin to someone creating a website, posting the URL to the > website in public places. And then complaining when people bookmark > their site. Or post their own URLs to the site. > > (Again, let me point out that I am NOT trying to justify any of this. > I'm just trying to explain current attitudes with Internet society.) > > Now granted, they should be "talking about" where the "content" came > from. They can even use standard HTML elements to do this with: > <cite>, <blockquote>, <q>, and <a>. (Or they could use other semantic > HTML.) > > > See ya > > On 4/7/06, *Anne Walk* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hi Josh. > > While searching for sites for testinggrounds.loadedpun.com > <http://testinggrounds.loadedpun.com>, I've found tons of vlogs > listed in a great number of sites. They do, indeed, pick up media > feeds and list them. Check out Blinkx, for example. I bet you're > in there. > > It's a very strange feeling to go to a community site and find > your listings. These places usually have a way to get out of the > listings if you find your stuff, but they have no way to prevent > you from getting in there in the first place. > > On 4/7/06, *Josh Leo* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I looked at the "watch" tab on veoh and noticed a bunch of > vlogger's videos (including Bre, Markus, and Rocketboom) on > the page. Markus didnt know anything about it, and I highly > doubt Rocketboom submuts their content to Veoh to be > transcoded into flash and hosted there... > > what is the deal? are they scraping feeds then transcoding and > hosting videos without permission? > > > > > -- > Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. > > charles @ reptile.ca <http://reptile.ca> > supercanadian @ gmail.com <http://gmail.com> > > developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Make > Television http://maketelevision.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "videoblogging > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
