No. I think it would confuse more than it would help.

Ok, i can agre with that.

As I mentioned in my last email this is already handled by the present CC
licenses.

I'll have to go back and review that then.  I thought the re-hosting part was more inferred. 

Thanks.

sull

On 4/10/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:17:38 +0200, Michael Sullivan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, should their be an opposing rel=no_enclosure so services like
> feedburner
> and blog engines etc can easily skip that media excluding it from the RSS
> channel?

No. I think it would confuse more than it would help. You already have
RelEnclosure, so when you use RelEnclosure you already speficy the
opposite relationship - all links without rel="enclosure" should be
regardles as not being enclosures. The problem is that many scrapers are
over-zealous. A sane algorithm would only include enclosures for the
following conditions:

  - Any link marked with rel="enclosure"
  - Any <img> elements
  - Any <object> and <embed> elements

Two years ago when this media scraping thing got started for real the
programmers were more worried about "making it easy" for the publishers so
every link got scraped. I "fought" with especially Peter when he started
mefeedia about this issue. I thought then and think now that the
over-zealous was a short term solution - a long term solution is the
algorithm above.

I hate to say I told you so, but you got what you asked for. If scrapers
and services rigidly enforced RelEnclosure from the start in 2004 we would
not be having this discussion.

> 2*
> Should Licenses such as Creative Commons provide optional clauses that
> state
> whether or not the media can be re-hosted without opt-in and
> re-distributed
> from that host?
> Would this streamline how media travels within all of the mediaspheres on
> the Internet?

As I mentioned in my last email this is already handled by the present CC
licenses.

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