On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:17:51 +0200, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> For a while anyway, both would surely co-exist.  But if such a forum 
> system
> had an easy public RSS feed ... there's no reason the group of thousands
> couldnt subscribe to it ... the usage would naturally move over time to
> which ever turned out the be most used in actual practice.

First off: Moving with any kind of success it a Really Hard Task - it's 
not just pushing the one-click phpBB install option at your hosting 
provider's control panel.

You have to figure out if there's anything in the structure of a Yahoo 
Group that keeps people who are interested in joining the conversation 
from actually joining. I can't see what that would be. Then you have to 
figure out if moving to a webbased message board would change things. I 
can't see why. Personally, I think it's quite normal to have an 80/20 or 
90/10 in groups like these, the videoblogging group is nothing special. If 
people wants to join in the conversation they should just post, if they 
want to be part of the conversation, but don't want to write a post then 
nothing is going to help.

After that you have all the nice technical problems. Like finding a 
message board system that handles threaded discussions well because 
conversations on this list tends to branch out. Finding out a way to have 
replies be handled as easily as in e-mail. Finding something that has the 
same speed. E-mail downloads fast, I only have to download new messages 
and no fluff - message boards tends to be the opposite (lots of fluff, 
forcing people to load the entire thread when looking at new posts). And 
you have to figure out how to handle notifications properly. A standard 
feed don't cut it. You either have to set the amount of items really high 
(like 100) which will be really fun for the reader and webserver or you 
end up with people only getting half a conversation because they went to 
bed when the hot discussion started. It's not just solved by installing 
some plugin and hoping for the best.

Finally you have to convince some people to break habits and move their 
conversations over. You'll have to prove that there's actual value to be 
gained from moving. Don't skip to this step before you've thought hard 
about the other two steps.

Like Peter said, if you want to start a forum go for it. No one owns the 
topic of "general videoblog discussion". This group has had plenty of 
splinter groups. Some were not so successful (e.g. videoblogging_content) 
but many have been quite successful (e.g. Node101, video_vertigo, 
mefeedia, blip and fireant user groups).

--
Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
<URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ >
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