On 5/15/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Devlon,

I understand where you are coming from.  But I think the argument being made is that the concept of Copyright law is (morally) wrong (regardless of whether it is legal).

I'll have to educate myself more on this topic to avoid putting my foot in my mouth, but I would guess that it was corporations that created the copyright need in the first place...out of  desire to protect thier pocketbooks, to horde....and in a perfect world we wouldn't need to be fearful of someone else gaining from our work.

But these days I can see some sort of protection people may want to protect the integrity of what ever message they are trying to convey with the contect they create.  The no-derivs cc thing gives people that ability.  They know that how ever they put their words, images, sounds together will be kept intact....and therefore so will their message.

(just my barely thought-out thoughts on the subject)

(I tried to elaborate on what Mark Hosler said in a long post I made in this thread.)


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On 5/14/06, Devlon < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, maybe I am naive or just too new to all this, but I don't see a problem at all.  If someone wants to protect their work, they use a license.  We have options....all rights reserved (not granular enough imho) and CC.

I feel the great thing about CC is the granularity.  I can choose what rights I'd like to reserve.

If someone doesn't agree with NC, or ND, then don't use it on their work...simple, done.

I can't think of a better way to phrase this, so please forgive the bluntness of it, but it seems like those who oppose the noderivs portion of CC feel that anything released online should be open to them to play with.  "If it's online, it's mine"?

On 5/13/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,

Please post the URL to it when it's done.


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On 5/13/06, WWWhatsup < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
yeah I'm just doing up a piece by Eben Moglen where
he mentions that he and Stallman believe that the NC provision
somewaht defeats the purpose.. It's a big encode I'll hopefully
have it up on Monday.

joly

Charles wrote:
>Hello Chuck,
>
>You may want to check this out also...
>
>Creative Commons -NC Licenses Consider Harmful
><http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655> http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655
>
>
>See ya



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