an interview with one of the members of Negativland Mark Holser at
Minnesota Stories
(http://www.mnstories.com/archives/2006/05/negativlands_ma.html).
Watch it if you can, because Mark has an interesting take on CC and
Copyright. Negativland contributed to the CC project but they have
some reservations to the concept at the same time. It's a great
interview if you are interested in this topic. And while you're at
it check out some Negativland music/audio art.
Sorry if this was mentioned in this thread already. I haven't been
following it all that closely.
Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com
--- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Will,
>
> On 5/15/06, wtrainbow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Charles,
> >
> > I'm not sure what your point is. You can certainly make the
argument that
> > copyright law is
> > morally wrong, I don't agree it is, but even if you and others
believe it
> > is so what.
> >
> > Are you advocating violating copyright law as some sort of
protest?
>
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> First... No, I am not telling people to violate copyright law.
>
> I'm advocating Copyleft. I am suggesting that people use things
like the
> Creative Commons Share-A-Like license(s). And the GNU GPL license.
>
> Copyleft in a way let's you opt-out of copyright law. In a way it
makes
> things as if there was no copyright law.
>
>
> The fact is that there are plenty of laws that people would
consider morally
> > wrong yet we
> > decide to follow them because we live in a civil society. If you
don't
> > agree with them work
> > to change them.
> >
> > I think current copyright law has a lot of problems but I'm not
convinced
> > that the concept
> > of copyright law is "morally" wrong...it's an interesting
philosophical
> > question but I don't
> > see it having much practical for videoblogging unless the laws
radically
> > change.
>
>
> I guess I didn't make what I was trying to say very clear.
>
> I was agruing that Copyright law was morally wrong. And
suggesting that
> those who agree with that use Copyleft licenses for their works.
>
>
> See ya
>
>
> See ya
> >
> > Will
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
> > <supercanadian@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Devlon,
> > >
> > > I understand where you are coming from. But I think the
argument being
> > made
> > > is that the concept of Copyright law is (morally) wrong
(regardless of
> > > whether it is legal).
> > >
> > > (I tried to elaborate on what Mark Hosler said in a long post
I made in
> > this
> > > thread.)
> > >
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > > On 5/14/06, Devlon <duthied@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, maybe I am naive or just too new to all this, but I
don't see a
> > > > problem at all. If someone wants to protect their work,
they use a
> > > > license. We have options....all rights reserved (not
granular enough
> > imho)
> > > > and CC.
> > > >
> > > > I feel the great thing about CC is the granularity. I can
choose what
> > > > rights I'd like to reserve.
> > > >
> > > > If someone doesn't agree with NC, or ND, then don't use it
on their
> > > > work...simple, done.
> > > >
> > > > I can't think of a better way to phrase this, so please
forgive the
> > > > bluntness of it, but it seems like those who oppose the
noderivs
> > portion of
> > > > CC feel that anything released online should be open to them
to play
> > with.
> > > > "If it's online, it's mine"?
> > > >
> > > > On 5/13/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <supercanadian@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please post the URL to it when it's done.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > See ya
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/13/06, WWWhatsup < joly@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yeah I'm just doing up a piece by Eben Moglen where
> > > > > > he mentions that he and Stallman believe that the NC
provision
> > > > > > somewaht defeats the purpose.. It's a big encode I'll
hopefully
> > > > > > have it up on Monday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > joly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Charles wrote:
> > > > > > >Hello Chuck,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You may want to check this out also...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Creative Commons -NC Licenses Consider Harmful
> > > > > >
><http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655>http://
> > www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655
> >
>
> [...]
>
>
> --
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
>
> charles @ reptile.ca
> supercanadian @ gmail.com
>
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