Or 'theirtube' if you follow the reasoning of '[YouTube] chose to be inoperable with us'
Gotta disagree with Mike's choice of words there and use that as a prime example... who died and made us gods of what works or what doesn't? If we're the gods then I want a cape dammit. :-) ER --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Ted Tagami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mike when you said: > > "...the true identity of this beast... (is)... more akin to email, IM, the > telephone... it's just personal communication that just so happens to > be public..... in fact architecturally and functionally speaking it's > closest relative is this very yahoo group, but media rich." > > I thought: ourtube > > On 11/17/06, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > comments below > > > > On 11/17/06, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <jay.dedman%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > And then I saw this. A 10 minute video that damn near had me in tears. > > > > Do you consider them videobloggers? I do. > > > > And since they aren't aware of THIS community, I will completely step > > > outside any jurisdiction > > > > and award them all a Vloggie Award. They deserve it, too. > > > > http://www.ericrice.com/blog/?p=208 > > > > > > Someone else emailed this link last week.... > > > as Josh Leo said...it really reminds me of the Videoblogging group's > > > first year when we were really just making videos to talk to each > > > other. > > > > > > I remember that journalists would denigrate us becasue we talked about > > > the act of videoblogging..and seemed to just be talking to each other. > > > > > > I really hope the Youtube crowd reaches outside their Youtube community. > > > this again is my only problem with these social networks. > > > yes, they encourage a lot of internal communication....but it usually > > > stays within that group. > > > > Precisely. The very nature of these social networks... these > > "communities" to kick the term some more as eric rice I think was > > implying. > > > > Is that this is about inter-personal communication. As such these > > services are to a large degree NOT interoperable. They're like having > > a telephone that only works on network a, but not on any other phone > > network. They betray the very nature of the end to end principal of > > the network. > > > > That said to the degree they use RSS and downloadable files is to the > > extent they become more interoperable. > > > > The ability to aggregate media from my friends regardless of what > > service they're on is extremely important to me. > > > > I cannot be required to go visit 18 different media sharing / social > > networking sites to keep up with my friends. THis is the very idea of > > RSS. The media from our friends no matter where they are in the world > > or what webservice on has to come to US. > > > > > I see many people in the Videoblogging group evolving in their > > > content...and taking on more ambitous, well-organized projects. I > > > wonder how long it'll take for the YouTube crowd to evolve past the > > > "hi, here i am" phase. > > > > I think in many cases some have. > > > > The problem is youtube still perpetuates the idea that it's all just a > > big popularity contest. This promotes the idea that it is all about > > viral video, funny videos, and other 'entertainment' hiding the true > > identity of this beast which is it's more akin to email, IM, the > > telephone... it's just personal communication that just so happens to > > be public..... in fact architecturally and functionally speaking it's > > closest relative is this very yahoo group, but media rich. > > > > > this is exactly what we always wanted. > > > its only been about 20 months. > > > > By it do you mean youtube? If so... yeah... this is the sort of > > personal communication I've always thought vlogging would be... I love > > it... HOWEVER... I think youtube because it's so inoperable is as > > dangerous a beast as mp3.com. > > > > I think sooner or later because of the vast amount paid for youtube, > > and the type of deals google is making to turn it into a tool for > > advertising to the masses... instead of for mass communications... and > > finally because they're playing for keeps discouraging > > interoperability through RSS with devices like ipod... or the PSP, or > > the next gen of cell phones and media players.... or ANY device > > besides youtube. > > > > Youtube offers non of this, nor ironicly does it offer any mechanisms > > for anyone to profit from their videos... which is why ironicly the > > biggest, brightest, and most popular entertainment videoblogs aren't > > on youtube. > > > > I've come to terms a long time ago with what youtube is and isn't. > > It's not evil. It's just the same old business plan reappropriated > > again and again. > > > > Just let me know when I can can subscribe to all my youtube friends on > > my portable media player or television right alongside all my other > > friends. Maybe then I'll stop "not liking" yourtube. > > > > -Mike > > mefeedia.com > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Me ----> http://www.momentshowing.net > > > My Book ---->http://tinyurl.com/e6cap > > > SF community ----> http://RyanIsHungry.com > > > Community Capitalism----> http://HaveMoneyWillVlog.com > > > Educate ----> http://node101.org > > > Collaboration ----> http://spinxpress.com > > > Call now to activate----> 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ted Tagami > Universus Networks, LLC > U N I V E R S U S . 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