Steve, Personally, I think Sony got the PSP aggregation wrong.
They needed an automatic podcatcher. None of this downloading and watching one video at a time. You have to be able to automatically cache the videos without any attention. You shouldn't have to download or browse heavily on the device. You shouldn't have to manage subscriptions. You shouldn't have to browse a directory for videos. You should just be able to pick up the device, scroll through the latest videos from your friends, most recent first, and click play. Think blackberry, only not email, video blog posts. And not private, but public. Could be entertainment or news yes, but it's not TV, it might just as well be a video from a friend's vlog. Anyway, I'm rambling, but the Nokia N93 and N95 might well accomplish this. Maybe. Peace, -Mike mefeedia.com mmeiser.com/blog On 12/1/06, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering how the Podcamp West Community Imperialism discussion > went? Is there any record of it on the internets? Is there somewhere > that the discussion is continuing? > > Is there a good place that I can go to watch the slow march of some > DIYers towards DRM love? > > Are youtubers having 'video conversations' much these days, ie > responding to a video with a video of their own rather than text > comments? Is there anything built into the system, or any other > system, that makes this sort of thing easy, easy to follow the > conversation? Yes Im ranting about a video-based discussion board type > system again, I dont know why, I never get many responses, but that > still doesnt put me off the idea of combining vlogging with forums and > realtime video conferencing and getting a strange hybrid. Is it an > idea doomed to fail, oh I dunno. Why am I talking about this now? > BEcause this imperialism stuff is something Id like to have a video > conversation with, but without realtime pressures. And nearly every > other area of video and the net seems to have moved on in leaps and > bounds in the last 2 years, wheras this doesnt seem to of. So Im > thinking of spending my Christmas holiday developing some crude system > as a proof-of-concept, but I dont know if anybody woould actually use > it. Will I be wasting my time? > > It was the insane films coverage of vlogeurope what reminded me of > your Cultural Imperialism thoughts, and I wanted to join in those > conversations, but I missed the even totally. But why should time & > space be a barrier? And Madge was on about combining time & space data > with video, which made me want to mashup vlogging and the video > discussion system idea with google maps and this timeline thing: > > http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/ > > Well theres the random thoughts in my brain today about this stuff, > who knows if Im making any sense. Potential or poop? > > By the way Eric do you still have anything to do with Sony PSP? I see > there is a camera out for it now, that can do video but only 20 second > clips? (or did I get that wrong?). The PSP was always an example to me > of one of the 'under-represented' devices in the vlogosphere, in that > there are a lot of people with PSPs, but they arent well represented > here, so it sometimes appears that they dont exist. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows with the friday afternoon waffle > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As an aside, Mike, the other reason I'm finding the community > imperialism angle so > > fascinating, is because I'm timing how slowly a very very VERY > important chain of events > > regarding intellectual property, DMCA-friendly and DRM-wanting folks > (and it's DIY > > people, not the Big Boys) is barely working its way through the > usual blogosphere > > channels--- the most visible and vocal suspects against who'd > normally speak up about > > such a thing don't seem to be aware because it originates in a place > outside the comfort > > zone. > > > > We can start a new thread on that one, but I'm too tired. Heh. > > > > ER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Meiser" > <groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: > > > > > > On 11/17/06, Eric Rice <eric@> wrote: > > > > I think the term that might be more accurately reflective is > 'cultural > > > > imperialism', but > > > > community was substituted in light of the thinking that we view > ourselves as > > > > a community > > > > more than a culture in most cases? I also adore how inflammatory > Imperialism > > > > is as a > > > > word, but go 10,000 m with your reading, not so much a direct > literal > > > > interpretation. > > > > > > Great word Eric. Cultural imperialism is exactly what it is. > > > > > > I've had a long standing theory one exactly what cultural > imperialism is. > > > > > > Basically in a world with limited means for communication, where the > > > major forms of communication that shape our society, our culture and > > > indeed the world, are a commodity such as is clearly the case most > > > obviously with television there is a draw toward the center... the > > > creation of a "popular culture" as these systems fundamentally lack > > > the capacity for the wide depth and breadth of societal and cultural > > > viewpoints. > > > > > > Call it cultural hegemony if you will. > > > > > > I would go on to theorize that the internet has caused a HUGE growth > > > in capacity for diverse communications, and that as it becomes the > > > dominant medium for global communications this radical increase in > > > capacity changes the game entirely. > > > > > > The problem is that businesses like still function as if in a world > > > where capacity was a fundamental commodity. Because of this they build > > > vertically integrated businesses instead of thinking horizontally. > > > > > > The exeption to this has been the search engines. Google probably > > > being the best example. Technoratti being another. (Mefeedia.com > > > still another) > > > > > > Instead of trying to take a traditional vertical slice of the > > > marketplace like say a newspaper or a magaine or a TV station would... > > > these horizontal thinkers thought of taking a horizontal slice. > > > Technoratti's being the entire blogosphere. > > > > > > Oh, lastly, we did not choose to be inoperable with youtube. > > > > > > It is youtube who chose to be inoperable with us. > > > > > > I just wanted to make this clear. > > > > > > Oh, and one more thing, Youtube is slowly coming out to play. There > > > are thousands of youtube feeds and youtube users on mefeedia now. > > > > > > -Mike > > > mefeedia.com > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > ER > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <steve@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You got me looking at the word Imperial and what it actually > means. It > > > > > really applies to countries, but tracing the term back further > I guess > > > > > you are basically meaning human power, the way people get it, > and the > > > > > effect it has on others, those without power? > > > > > > > > > > If so, I find it interesting that people gaining power does not > > > > > necessarily say anything about their moticves or how much good > they > > > > > are doing. Someone who is doing stuff to help others, whether > it be > > > > > doing workshops, books, whatever, is likely to gain personally > on a > > > > > number of levels, including power. Whether the power goes on to > > > > > corrupt them in some way, whether they are uncomfortable with the > > > > > power and seek to diminish it, or not use it, that comes down to > > > > > chance and genetics as much as ideology and anything else. > > > > > > > > > > Id love to know more about what you are meaning, and how you think > > > > > things could be any different, given that we work with the human > > > > > nature we've got, not the nature we much yearn for. > > > > > > > > > > When it comes to video communties, Ive always been interested in > > > > > whether text forum concepts could be merged with video, but > with a new > > > > > angle that avoids clumsiness, sort of a cross between forums, > instant > > > > > cha, mailing lists, blog vlogs, youtube clips and live > internet chat. > > > > > almost like an equivalent of mobile text messaging but with video > > > > > between larger groups. Thats where Id hope to see something > resembling > > > > > the idea of 'community'. I also love show type vlogs but I > dont expect > > > > > it to satisfy the human social itch in as broad and > 'community' a sense. > > > > > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Rice" <eric@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This weekend at PodCamp West, I'm part of a discussion about > > > > > Community Imperialism in DIY > > > > > > Media, because frankly, I believe the state of 'communities' > is crap. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been a rough week, seeing everyday people invoking the > DMCA, > > > > > requesting DRM to > > > > > > protect content; open source getting attacked; watching the word > > > > > 'community' get thrown > > > > > > around when it means 'our silo'. > > > > > > > > > > > > And then I saw this. A 10 minute video that damn near had me > in tears. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you consider them videobloggers? I do. > > > > > > And since they aren't aware of THIS community, I will completely > > > > > step outside any jurisdiction > > > > > > and award them all a Vloggie Award. They deserve it, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ericrice.com/blog/?p=208 > > > > > > > > > > > > ER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
