To me, you can't compare the presidential campaigns of 2004 to the one 
happening now. In 2004 we were in the midst of war. Even though people didn't 
like Bush, many rationalized it as being too dangerous or too potentially 
complicating to switch presidents in the middle of such international crisis. I 
know this because I have friends in the army, even some who were deployed in 
Iraq, who swore they hated Bush BUT felt that for the aforementioned reasons, 
he should remain president. Also, you forget that the Democrats had their own 
roundabout media powerhouses like P. Diddy, Paris Hilton, and the such, 
campaigning for the youngsters to "rock the vote," which while claiming 
non-partisanship were largely lobbying for the Democrats by insinuating the 
threat of the draft if Bush were to remain president. While I love Hillary 
Clinton and want her to win, I think the combined fact that she's a woman and 
her liberal record will make her presidential campaign reminiscent of the 
"grassroots" movement that you reference, more so than someone like Edwards, 
who has enough exposure and general liberal-conservative appeal to win the 
presidency.  
Obreahny O'Brien


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:10:30 
-0800Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: John Edwards to Run for President 
(announcement on YouTube)




I'm curious as to how you believe that these things will pull out a winagainst 
an opponent whose primary weapon is the echo chamber, guaranteeingthat, for 
every assertion you make, there will be an army of people onevery media outlet 
imaginable all saying the exact same contradiction towhatever 
Edwards/Clinton/Whoever says. Kerry often dug his own grave in2004, but it's 
also very true that he was smothered out in the media--every one of his merits 
became sidelined, niggled, and confused; every oneof his blunders instantly 
became a gaping flaw (think about the "flipflopper" label he earned).The 
grassroots is great for taking Congress, but not a Presidency. Istill remember 
in 2004 as I marched in the streets for Kerry (even thoughI didn't really like 
him) and found that our assembled grassroots powerpaled in comparison to the 
regimented and well-funded power the Bush 2004campaign had. We had our signs, 
chants, hope, and energy. They had theirsigns, chants, hope, and energy...and 
several "party wagon" vehicles...anda DJ...and threw major parties that got 
young people registered and hypedup for Bush...and...and...My sincere belief is 
that 2008 will be a battle of insiders. Anyone whois overly grassroots is going 
to find themself in a fourth and 
long.--Rhett.http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime> By talking plain and simple, 
by fighting back when he's right, by> offering clear solutions to issues, by 
not gettign side tracked, by> addressing issues, by being human, by not just 
telling us what is> wrong without also telling us what is right, understanding 
that> people want and need to feel valued, that they want to feel like they> 
are part of the solution, that teir voice can be heard.....by> harnessing the 
power of this new media to reach out to a group of> people who feel they have 
no voice and are being left behind...>> Heath> 
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com>> --- In [email protected], "J. 
Rhett Aultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>>>> The fundamental question I have 
is how he'd handle another Rove-run>> campaign. Both he and Kerry basically let 
a Rove campaign smother> them>> in punches and mud last time, and knowledge of 
the world doesn't> protect>> you from Mr. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.>>>> -->> 
Rhett.>> http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime>>>> Robert Scoble wrote:>>>> 
>Might be, but it's clear he spent the past four years beefing up> his 
knowledge of the world too, visiting dozens of countries.>> >>> >Robert>> >>> 
>>> > ----- Original Message ----->> > From: J. Rhett Aultman>> > To: 
[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:43 AM>> > 
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] John Edwards to Run for President> (announcement 
on YouTube)>> >>> >>> > He won't tank Dean-style, but he ran four years ago, 
giving his> enemies>> > plenty of time and opportunity to find all his weak 
spots. An> Edwards>> > campaign is, in my mind, walking wounded already.>> >>> 
> -->> > Rhett.>> > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime>> >>> > Joey Profit 
wrote:>> >>> > >John Edwards harnessing the internets. I wonder if he'll tank> 
like Howard Dean.>> > >>> > >--Joey>> > >>> > >On 27/12/06, andrew michael 
baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > >>> > >>> > >>Today Joanne, Chuck and I 
are out in New Orleans.>> > >>>> > >>We just filmed John Edwards' first 
announcement that he is> running>> > >>for president.>> > >>>> > >>I just 
uploaded the video to John Edwards' YouTube account.>> > >>>> > >><a 
href="http://youtube.com/watch?> v=1etlZaf6zUw">http://youtube.com/>> > 
>>watch?v=1etlZaf6zUw</a>>> > >>>> > >>(BTW, it may look like a photo op, but 
Edwards has been> working out>> > >>here all day and has been providing major 
support since last> year>> > >>when Katrina hit).>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 
> >>> > >>> > >>> > >Yahoo! Groups Links>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 
>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>> 
>>> >>> >>> >>> >Yahoo! Groups Links>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 
Groups Links>>>> 


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