i think you are right, steve. during the presentation, being stunned a bit, i didnt think of the lockdown approach right away, especially when he said it runs OSX as if he meant OSX. as it ended, my speculations and questions started to come to mind. in all liklihood, this is indeed a locked down device. :(
On 1/9/07, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cheers, > > Hmm 320x480 is obviously a lot better than 320x240 ipods, but > pocketpc's are typically 640x480 so thats a bit dissapointing in a way. > > Thinking about the OS X angle further, I'll go out on a limb and bet > that, at least initially, Apple keep the device pretty locked down in > terms of what can be run on it. Also what CPU the iPhone has is > conspicuously missing from the spec, and will have a major bearing on > compatibility. I will watch Apple developer stuff to see if its ever > mentioned. > > And quite apart from technical reasons for limiting compatibility and > locking down, I suspect they will like to avoid people having 'hacked' > phones that can be used without itunes, with different formats etc. To > be fair they arent calling it a pocket mac so lets not set the bar too > high for them. > > Meanwhile on the Apple TV front, I see thats out in February (same in > the UK, phew), and the supported format details are: > > Video > > * Video formats supported: H.264 and protected H.264 (from > iTunes Store): 640 by 480, 30 fps, LC version of Baseline Profile; 320 > by 240, 30 fps, Baseline profile up to Level 1.3; 1280 by 720, 24 fps, > Progressive Main Profile. MPEG-4: 640 by 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile > > Audio > > * Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps); protected AAC > (from iTunes store); MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps); MP3 VBR; Apple Lossless; > AIFF; WAV > > Photos > > * Photo formats supported: JPEG, BMP, GIF, TIFF, PNG > > No huge surprises there I guess, its an extension of what theyve done > before with ipod & itnues video. > > Cheers > > Steve Elbows > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Enric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The iPhone specs: > > > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html > > > > Technical Specifications > > Screen size 3.5 inches > > Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi > > Input method Multi-touch > > Operating system OS X > > Storage 4GB or 8GB > > GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900) > > Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0 > > Camera 2.0 megapixels > > Battery > > > > * Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing > > * Up to 16 hours Audio playback > > > > Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm > > Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams > > > > -- Enric > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Steve Watkins" <steve@> wrote: > > > > > > Although he didnt make it clear whether its a subset of OSX, what the > > > compatibility is like, whether users will have the ability to load > > > what they want on it. Skype for example. > > > > > > It must be a cut-down version in some way or it would take an annoying > > > amount of time to startup & drain the battery too quickly? Dunno, just > > > speculating. > > > > > > Looks like a nice device, shame have to wait so long for it, > > > especially as it wont be out in Europe till the 4th quarter. > > > > > > Was there any mention of the built-in camera recording video? > > > > > > Any mention of what video formats/resolutions it will support? > > > > > > Do we know what the actual screen resolution is? > > > > > > Lacking 3G seems like a slightly strange omission although personally > > > I'll use it mostly with wifi. > > > > > > Im glad to see Apple shake this stuff up because my experinces with > > > smartphones and pocketpc phones havent been overly enjoyable. Am > > > looking forward to see what the multi-touch is like, and how apples > > > implementation of touchscreen compares to microsofts dismal tablet > > > efforts. There was a bit of Apples usually over-egging of the > > > uniqueness, I can use a finger with my pocketpc quite nicely, but the > > > full-browser and multitouch should make an interesting difference to > > > the experience. > > > > > > The Apple TV currently has me interested too, any idea of release date > > > for that? It would probably be more of a killer device if it supported > > > a widder range of video formats but its too early to tell. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > CarLBanks <carlbanks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think one of the coolest things from reading the liveblogs is that > > > IT RUNS > > > > OS X! > > > > > > > > On 1/9/07, andrew michael baron <andrew@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 5 hours of full video/phone use, 16hrs of audio. > > > > > > > > > > Due out in June. :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via CrackBerry > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Rich <r1ch_852000@> > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:43:22 > > > > > To:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Widescreen video iphone > > > > > > > > > > Hey Andrew, > > > > > > > > > > What's the battery consumption like? > > > > > > > > > > --- andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]: <mailto: > > > > > andrew%40rocketboom.com> com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The interface is the most impressive. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can pintch and expand your fingers to zoom, and > > > > > > you can scroll by moving your finger across screen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Runs full safari browser with excellent interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > Has sensors and changes to landscape when you turn > > > > > > it sideways. > > > > > > > > > > > > Widgets. > > > > > > > > > > > > If a hotspot is avil, it will switch from phone > > > > > > service GSM and Edge to wifi automatically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via CrackBerry > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: "Digital Buddha" <digitalbuddha@: <mailto: > > > > > digitalbuddha%40gmail.com> gmail.com> > > > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:09:23 > > > > > > To:videoblogging@: <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Widescreen video iphone > > > > > > > > > > > > wow ! > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/9/07, andrew michael baron > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > > > <mailto:andrew% <andrew%25>40rocketboom.com> com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in steve jobs keynote right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh boy. This phone is a widscreen. No buttons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 160pixels per inch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinner than Q and black jack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Runs osx!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 mega pixel camera. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a major revolution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to upload a video pic on flickr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also itv now called apple tv is out in feb for > > > > > > wisescreen too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via CrackBerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ted Tagami > > > > > > Business Development > > > > > > > > > > > > Millions of Us > > > > > > 80 Liberty Ship Way, Suite #5 > > > > > > Sausalito, CA 94965 > > > > > > www.millionsofus.com > > > > > > > > > > > > mobile: 510-684-9773 > > > > > > fax: 415-324-5902 > > > > > > skype: ted_tagami > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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