Thanks very much for this - I never heard of the openmoko platform
before so this is great news.

Unfortunately I believe the h.264 conversation over there was a bit
wrong on 2 fronts, the patent issue isnt that simple because its
multiple different companies who claim their patents make h264
possible, and so the mpeg licensing body handles all this stuff as a
one stop shop for getting license to use h264 stuff. Wheras the news
seemed to relate only to one particular companies technology patent
being ruled invalid. And the thinking about the FIC hardware being
capable of h264 decoding, by comparing its CPU to the CPU speed of
ipods, may also be wrong as I believe the ipod video has a seperate
decoder chip to handle that stuff.

So anyways its great to hear that an open linux phone is about to
exist (although I wouldnt be surprised if there were a few more
delays). The apparent lack of wifi or 3G dampens my enthusiasm more
than a little, but its still a ray of hope in a closed mobile world.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Dean Collins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
> You should check out the FIC Neo email list for the H264 discussions 
> that have occurred in the last week.
> 
> If you don't know about openmoko check out 
> http://deancollinsblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/fic-gta001.html  
> 
>  
> Regards,
> Dean 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Steve Watkins" <steve@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I didnt exactly get a warm fuzzy feeling when I read these words...
> > 
> > "Markoff: "Flash?"
> > 
> > Jobs: "Well, you might see that."
> > 
> > Markoff: "What about YouTube–"
> > 
> > Jobs: "Yeah, YouTube—of course. But you don't need to have Flash to
> > show YouTube. All you need to do is deal with YouTube. And plus, we
> > could get `em to up their video resolution at the same time, by 
> using
> > h.264 instead of the old codec."
> > 
> > http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/13/ultimate-iphone-faqs-list-
> part-2/#
> > 
> > 
> > A million miles away from the spirit of open mobile devices, as far 
> as
> > Im concerned.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Steve Elbows
> >
>


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