Please Im begging someone to respond to my point about creative
commons material needing to be available for download & redistribution
in order to stay true to the cc license.

So whilst the specifics you mention are true, its not just about
giving additional rights to youtubes partners. Its about the rights
youtube denies to its viewers.

Theres nothing to stop people putting their own cc material on
youtube, but it doesnt really mean much unless they also host it
somewhere else that enables others to use the rights that cc gives
them.  Putting stuff on youtube doesnt harm your ability to release
the same work under less restrictive cc terms elsewhere, jsut the same
as its possible for me to release a video on the web under cc but also
license it commercially to specific entities to include on a DVD or
whatever.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "JD Lasica" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jan wrote:
> 
> > Nothing stopping YouTubers from putting a cc license in and around
their
> > works. We don't NEED to have point-of-upload cc options to claim 'em.
> > Do we?
> > Naw.
> 
> And Jay wrote:
> 
> >you are absolutely correct.
> >it would of course be easier if yoiutube et al helped educate people
> >by offering the choice in their process. But anyone could insert a
> >video post-roll of the CC license.
> 
> While I agree with the sentiment -- and indeed, that's exactly what
> I've done, uploaded my videos to YouTube with CC post-rolls -- I think
> we should all keep in mind that by uploading to YouTube, you're
> agreeing to their Terms of Service, which supersedes any conditions
> you may or may not include as part of your video.
> 
> In other words, if you include a Creative Commons noncommercial
> license when you upload to YouTube, YouTube still has the right to
> license your video to its business partners to show off on their
> sites. As attorney Colette Vogele told me in a different context:
> "Creative Commons licenses are essentially nonoperational on Yahoo!
> Video." Same goes for YouTube.
> 
> (TOS comparison: http://www.ourmedia.org/node/283309)
> 
> Perhaps the members of this list, together with Creative Commons,
> should launch a petition campaign to persuade YouTube to include CC
> licenses as an option when we upload to YouTube.
> 
> jd lasica
> ourmedia.org
> socialmedia.biz
>


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