Well I agree that it seems wrong to criticise a company for sending 
out email - otherwise they are damned if they do and damned if they 
dont, previous complaints were about them not talking to people!

How the email is written, the tone etc, is how Id see it, rather 
than whether sending email is wrong per se.

AS for the negativity of the group etc, welcome to the internet! Im 
certainly very guilty of mostly talking negatively, usually because 
if something is OK, I dont usually feel the need to comment on it. 
Thats no justification, just an explanation.

Since the early days of the group, many have wished for more 
discusion of content, etc. A seperate group was even setup for this, 
but all the offshoot groups have failed to maintain much discusion 
at all.

The reasons are probably varied - sometimes its easier to make 
content than to talk about it (not for me though lol), people let 
the content speak for itself. 

The whole negativity thing is also seen a lot with comments on 
people blogs, videos, etc. It seems that getting annoyed or 
disproving of something can be a greater source of motivation for 
people to share their thoughts, than positive stuff. A shame, not 
100% true, dunno how to change it. 

Even if we did talk about content more, it can get even more 
sensitive. A lot of opeople opinions on content also boils down 
to 'I think this is crap', and as people are understandably a bit 
sensitive about their work, it can cause even more bad vibes.

Can you point me to some forums, messageboards, groups or other 
stuff that is a shining example of a more balanced, less moany 
bitchy balance of things? Because its unfortunately my experience 
that this isnt something unique to this group. Indeed the phenomenon 
of negative text communication on the net is one of the many reasons 
some people were attracted to video in the first place!

Youve done nothing wrong and noboy is going to unsubscribe you. You 
can of course unsubscribe yourself if you cant stand to be here. The 
middle way is to set the yahoo options so that you dont get emails, 
but rather you can read just the stuff you choose by looking at this 
group throught he yahoo web interface, where you can also view 
messages grouped by subject, thus making it very easy to avoid whole 
threads of coversation that dont appeal.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In [email protected], "Dean Collins" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > 
> > Network2 should STOP emailing people!  It's the prefered method 
of
> > spammers... I think it's definitely one of the things that 
immediately
> > sets people off.... maybe not as much with this promotion... but
> > making a first introduction and request... of course that puts 
people
> > off... it's the same way all fishing scams work.
> > 
> > So network2 has to establish more trust...
> > 
> > and secondly... jeff pulver hasn't been that active here... and 
he's
> > making big heavy handed moves...
> > 
> 
> 
> First off I was the person who reposted Jeff's email here. It came 
into 
> my inbox that morning and I thought it would be of interest to 
people 
> in this group seeing I dont currently video blog.
> 
> Secondly wow, I've never seen a bunch of crying babies more than 
I've 
> seen in the past 24 hours.
> 
> You guys even beat the MythTV open source software group.
> 
> As for email being the "method" of spammers, pull your head out of 
your 
> butt. It's the way people communicate. If you dont like it dont 
read it 
> or better still unsubscribe me.
> 
> For someone that has just 'wandered' in off the street lately into 
this 
> group I've seen nothing but moaning and groaning and bitching. 
> 
> I thought I'd find tips and techniques, discussions about topics, 
> reviews on thought provoking vlogs.
> 
> Sorry if this sounds out of line but wheres the content???
> 
> 
> Dissapointedly,
> 
> Dean
> P.S. Everything I say is my own personal opinion and I'm not 
connected 
> with F2/Pulver etc if you dont like what I've got to say 
unsubscribe 
> me, it's not like I'd be missing any content anyway.
>


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